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Old 10-02-2005, 12:18 PM   #1
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Although I like his music (mostly his production) his ideology is unIslamic. RZA and many new york rappers are 5Percenters, which is a twist off of Islam which is actually very unIslamic. They've taken a lot of Islamic words, places, some of the principles and tried to make a so called religion. They refer to themselves (Black Males) as Allah, which is the ultimate sin in Islam, because ALLAH is the ONE Creator without any partners or human charateristics (ALLAH is not a man or a woman, ALLAH is the Supreme Creator that relies on nothing and no one). There are many "branch" off ideologies which have stolen principles of Islam and words of Islam or just twisted Islam in order to deceive and control people. Like 5Percenters, Bahai, Wahabi. They all have twisted the true faith.

The Muslim follows only The Holy Quran, the Holy Hadith (exact words of Hazrate Muhammad) and his Holy Family (12 Imams (Imam is the ultimate Islamic authority on earth, the Imam is a direct descendant of Hazrate Muhammad, one which is still alive today, the final Imam his name is Mahdi). We refer also to religious teachers at Mosques as Imams but there is a MAJOR difference between them and the Infallible Imams of the Holy Prophet's blood line.

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Old 10-02-2005, 12:23 PM   #2
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peace brother... this has been established many times before


5%ers know that they are not muslims as such. they follow their own way and do not wish either to hijack any thoughts that muslims have.. they dont go about yelling at us or go 2 our mosques.. they stay peaceful and mind their own philosophies and they combine many ideologies not only Islamic ones that we do..


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and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the peoples practice of Islam ?

sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?

Idol worship " " " ?

Its not a sin that we label ourselves ALLAH

many don't know who or what ALLAH is or isn't

and your interpetation of the Quran cannot open your eyes to the real significance of the Nation of Gods And Earths
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might thoughts exactly
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and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?

sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?

Idol worship " " " ?

Its not a sin that we label ourselves ALLAH

many don't know who or what ALL
AH is or isn't

and your interpetation of the Quran cannot open your eyes to the real significance of the Nation of Gods And Earths
Does your's offer any alternative. For what purpose is it to label yourself for what you are not?

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and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?
nope, not at all.


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sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?
As in sun worship? I can remember that you don't worship nobody but Allah.

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Idol worship " " " ?
Cannot even describe one moment.

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Its not a sin that we label ourselves ALLAH
Who says? Does the Qua'ran say? Or does the Rza?

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many don't know who or what ALLAH is or isn't
Because people don't see him or know that he is closer than the Jugular is to the body.

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Old 10-02-2005, 01:17 PM   #6
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The weakest mind always need guidance.


I don't need a religion to go trough life. I look into myself to see what life is about rather than an old book that made blood shed for centurys.

Faith is the number one causes of death.
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Old 10-02-2005, 01:23 PM   #7
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so is cancer and other diseases.. as well as political strides of people like bush...and the movements of ideas.. hijacked ideas of capitalism communism and many others..
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Does your's offer any alternative. For what purpose is it to label yourself for what you are not?
mines ?

Again, your interpetation of the Quran cannot open your eyes to the real significance of the Nation of Gods And Earths

who is this we that the Quran refers to when it tells you "WE gave you the book..."

can't tell me that thats just how yall speak in arabic either

ALLAH is in Plural Form in The Quran

Who was it that spoke to Muhammad in the cave ?


was it a Ghost
or was it a Black man names JabriEL ?
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and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?

nope, not at all.


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sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?

As in sun worship? I can remember that you don't worship nobody but Allah.




How do you know when its Fajr prayer ?





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Idol worship " " " ?

Cannot even describe one moment.







Why are they kissing,touching,and crying on this building ?


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and no paganistic rituals were slipped into the people practice of Islam ?

nope, not at all.


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sun worship wasn't incoporated into present day Islam ?

As in sun worship? I can remember that you don't worship nobody but Allah.




How do you know when its Fajr prayer ?





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Idol worship " " " ?

Cannot even describe one moment.







Why are they kissing,touching,and crying on this building ?


Simply because they have compassion for the one person that allowed Islam to become Islam, dosen't suggest that he be, in any way shape or form, an idol.

And on fajr, it's simply prayer before sunrise. Its nothing as putting the sun as a god.

You must learn that everything dosnt require a complex answer. Simple enough.
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But who am I to say? My knowledge on Islam is very limited at the moment. Peace.
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Simply because they have compassion for the one person that allowed Islam to become Islam, dosen't suggest that he be, in any way shape or form, an idol.

And on fajr, it's simply prayer before sunrise. Its nothing as putting the sun as a god.

You must learn that everything dosnt require a complex answer. Simple enough.
No - you must learn to not mask wrongdoing with what feels good


people of other faiths do the same
when you approach them about them bowing to a statue of a cow,buddah or whatever
they'll say
"we are not bowing to idols, this is just a representation of the real thing"

when asked "how do you know when its fajr prayer"
your answer should be
"we know by tracking the movements of the SUN"
that would have been the simple answer
Sun worship was incorporated into the practice of Islam by Muhammads enemies



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But who am I to say? My knowledge on Islam is very limited at the moment. Peace.
lol, well you see there are many ideologies u will come to.. and u will learn from each.. just approach with caution.. appreciate the positive things and then start analysing.. through that ull see islam urself..
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Of course, I have said, in prayer facing the east BEFORE SUNRISE, I havn't said that you must face the sun during prayer. Although I can agree that sun worship has been incorprated into prayer by the enemies of Allah, but that is a good argument.
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lol, well you see there are many ideologies u will come to.. and u will learn from each.. just approach with caution.. appreciate the positive things and then start analysing.. through that ull see islam urself..
True, true, I will approach them cautiosly.
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