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Old 05-22-2010, 02:37 PM   #61
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"You know you can worship whatever you want and whever you want but dont claim to be a muslim because you give it a bad name."

thats ironic eye feel the same way about you
WIFE BEATER!!!

Hellspawn....don't claim to be Muslim because you
give LOVE(Islam) a bad name like Jon Bon Jovi

LOL

if you wanna beat your wife don't use
Allah's name to smooth it over

just be a fuckin wife beater

don't bring Allah into it

bottom line....you will believe its
okay to beat on a non violent woman

once u admitted this you lost ALL CREDABILITY!!!!

"islam promote the unicity of god, you promote plurality"

you promote greek influenced explanations
of the Holy Quran!!!!

"islam promote equality, you promote elitism"

please give me an example of where
eye promoted elitism Mr Wife Beater?

"islam promote understanding, you promote misinformation"

you promote greek culture

"islam said god is beyond your imagination and you follow Elijah who claim to be god"

more lies from Mr Wife Beater Arab nationalist

LOL

eye follow my self!!!!!

"this is more than ridiculous, even this so called "prophet" turned into a sunni muslim before he dies because he knew the truth"

huh?

are you trying to make the claim that Elijah Muhammad
turned into a cracker ass sunni(like you) before he left???

eye certainly hope not cuz even a fucking
KKK grand wizard knows that shit isn't true!!!!

"he just wanted to milk the cow until the end, but when it came to face the real god he couldnt see himself tellin him "him man, I was a god too in my lifeetime !" he would have his ass kicked like nobody before him. Maybe god will accept his repentance."

all this comming from a guy who will
beat up a woman.....LOL

yes hellspawn...we know you worship
that vengefull white european unceen God

but you can't scare us anymore with that bullshit

if anyones going to hell its you for
making up your own interpertation of the Quran

eye don't follow the Messenger
of Allah Elijah Muhammad in particular
and he made his mistakes but
so did other prophets and messengers too

"When ever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle any of his wives during the periods (menses), he used to ask her to wear an Izar. "

so we gotta follow Muhammad over Jesus?

LOL
and whats worse.....
you wacky sunni's think the above Quote
goes along with the Quran

sorry....Hadith and Sunna is not the Quran
and they should not be mixed

furthermore

although the Quran is FROM the most High God

it is NOT the highest form of Islam

it is an easy to follow Islam made
to clean up
savage sex addict
woman beating Arabs
such as yourself

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"

so yes....Hell spawn's Arab Nationalist version of Islam
allows him to have slaves and even have sex with them

om not saying the Quran doesn't have
jewels for US REAL Islamic people

eye love Sura 72 the Jinn

sura 70 talking about the 50,000 year period

sura 18 with the green one

sura 4 talking about how Jesus didn't die
on the crosss

yeah theres sum jewels

but bottom line.....alot of whuts in the Quran
is specifically for CLEANING UP
those savage wife beating Arabs

the highest form of Islam does not allow Slavery

or does Mr Wife Beater Hellspawn believe
its okay to have slaves too?????

tell us Wife Beater

do you think its okay to have slaves?

whut Allah gave to Muhammad is the LAST
in a series of many prophets before him

to think we must follow Muhammad
over every other prophet is pure white nationalism
at its worst!!!!!!!!!!!You know you can worship whatever you want and whever you want but dont claim to be a muslim because you give it a bad name."

thats ironic eye feel the same way about you
WIFE BEATER!!!

Hellspawn....don't claim to be Muslim because you
give LOVE(Islam) a bad name like Jon Bon Jovi

LOL

if you wanna beat your wife don't use
Allah's name to smooth it over

just be a fuckin wife beater

don't bring Allah into it

bottom line....you will believe its
okay to beat on a non violent woman

once u admitted this you lost ALL CREDABILITY!!!!

"islam promote the unicity of god, you promote plurality"

you promote greek influenced explanations
of the Holy Quran!!!!

"islam promote equality, you promote elitism"

please give me an example of where
eye promoted elitism Mr Wife Beater?

"islam promote understanding, you promote misinformation"

you promote greek culture

"islam said god is beyond your imagination and you follow Elijah who claim to be god"

more lies from Mr Wife Beater Arab nationalist

LOL

eye follow my self!!!!!

"this is more than ridiculous, even this so called "prophet" turned into a sunni muslim before he dies because he knew the truth"

huh?

are you trying to make the claim that Elijah Muhammad
turned into a cracker ass sunni(like you) before he left???

eye certainly hope not cuz even a fucking
KKK grand wizard knows that shit isn't true!!!!

"he just wanted to milk the cow until the end, but when it came to face the real god he couldnt see himself tellin him "him man, I was a god too in my lifeetime !" he would have his ass kicked like nobody before him. Maybe god will accept his repentance."

all this comming from a guy who will
beat up a woman.....LOL

yes hellspawn...we know you worship
that vengefull white european unceen God

but you can't scare us anymore with that bullshit

if anyones going to hell its you for
making up your own interpertation of the Quran

eye don't follow the Messenger
of Allah Elijah Muhammad in particular
and he made his mistakes but
so did other prophets and messengers too

"When ever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle any of his wives during the periods (menses), he used to ask her to wear an Izar. "

so we gotta follow Muhammad over Jesus?

LOL
and whats worse.....
you wacky sunni's think the above Quote
goes along with the Quran

sorry....Hadith and Sunna is not the Quran
and they should not be mixed

furthermore

although the Quran is FROM the most High God

it is NOT the highest form of Islam

it is an easy to follow Islam made
to clean up
savage sex addict
woman beating Arabs
such as yourself

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"

so yes....Hell spawn's Arab Nationalist version of Islam
allows him to have slaves and even have sex with them

om not saying the Quran doesn't have
jewels for US REAL Islamic people

eye love Sura 72 the Jinn

sura 70 talking about the 50,000 year period

sura 18 with the green one

sura 4 talking about how Jesus didn't die
on the crosss

yeah theres sum jewels

but bottom line.....alot of whuts in the Quran
is specifically for CLEANING UP
those savage wife beating Arabs

the highest form of Islam does not allow Slavery

or does Mr Wife Beater Hellspawn believe
its okay to have slaves too?????

tell us Wife Beater

do you think its okay to have slaves?

whut Allah gave to Muhammad is the LAST
in a series of many prophets before him

to think we must follow Muhammad
over every other prophet is pure white nationalism
at its worst!!!!!!!!!!!You know you can worship whatever you want and whever you want but dont claim to be a muslim because you give it a bad name."

thats ironic eye feel the same way about you
WIFE BEATER!!!

Hellspawn....don't claim to be Muslim because you
give LOVE(Islam) a bad name like Jon Bon Jovi

LOL

if you wanna beat your wife don't use
Allah's name to smooth it over

just be a fuckin wife beater

don't bring Allah into it

bottom line....you will believe its
okay to beat on a non violent woman

once u admitted this you lost ALL CREDABILITY!!!!

"islam promote the unicity of god, you promote plurality"

you promote greek influenced explanations
of the Holy Quran!!!!

"islam promote equality, you promote elitism"

please give me an example of where
eye promoted elitism Mr Wife Beater?

"islam promote understanding, you promote misinformation"

you promote greek culture

"islam said god is beyond your imagination and you follow Elijah who claim to be god"

more lies from Mr Wife Beater Arab nationalist

LOL

eye follow my self!!!!!

"this is more than ridiculous, even this so called "prophet" turned into a sunni muslim before he dies because he knew the truth"

huh?

are you trying to make the claim that Elijah Muhammad
turned into a cracker ass sunni(like you) before he left???

eye certainly hope not cuz even a fucking
KKK grand wizard knows that shit isn't true!!!!

"he just wanted to milk the cow until the end, but when it came to face the real god he couldnt see himself tellin him "him man, I was a god too in my lifeetime !" he would have his ass kicked like nobody before him. Maybe god will accept his repentance."

all this comming from a guy who will
beat up a woman.....LOL

yes hellspawn...we know you worship
that vengefull white european unceen God

but you can't scare us anymore with that bullshit

if anyones going to hell its you for
making up your own interpertation of the Quran

eye don't follow the Messenger
of Allah Elijah Muhammad in particular
and he made his mistakes but
so did other prophets and messengers too

"When ever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle any of his wives during the periods (menses), he used to ask her to wear an Izar. "

so we gotta follow Muhammad over Jesus?

LOL
and whats worse.....
you wacky sunni's think the above Quote
goes along with the Quran

sorry....Hadith and Sunna is not the Quran
and they should not be mixed

furthermore

although the Quran is FROM the most High God

it is NOT the highest form of Islam

it is an easy to follow Islam made
to clean up
savage sex addict
woman beating Arabs
such as yourself

"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"

so yes....Hell spawn's Arab Nationalist version of Islam
allows him to have slaves and even have sex with them

om not saying the Quran doesn't have
jewels for US REAL Islamic people

eye love Sura 72 the Jinn

sura 70 talking about the 50,000 year period

sura 18 with the green one

sura 4 talking about how Jesus didn't die
on the crosss

yeah theres sum jewels

but bottom line.....alot of whuts in the Quran
is specifically for CLEANING UP
those savage wife beating Arabs

the highest form of Islam does not allow Slavery

or does Mr Wife Beater Hellspawn believe
its okay to have slaves too?????

tell us Wife Beater

do you think its okay to have slaves?

whut Allah gave to Muhammad is the LAST
in a series of many prophets before him

to think we must follow Muhammad
over every other prophet is pure white nationalism
at its worst!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-22-2010, 03:00 PM   #62
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"How can you define something as the true Islam when it only exists in the realms of America's black ghettoes?? the World is bigger than America, especially the Muslim world. "

stop lying....it doesn't only exist in
america's black ghetto's

the Quran says Allah has hands
eyes
feet

and even if it did only exist in america's black ghetto's

LOL

that don't mean shit....
when Muhammad started out his teachings
only existed in a small part of Arabia

"and oh yeah if you had knowledge on the rest of the muslim world you would know that muslim nations dont use vaccines with pork in it."

the very function of a vaccine is
to inject the body with UNCLEAN things

"Most people do not know it (because the pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccine serums will never let the public know), but various vaccine serums are made up of: formaldehyde (embalming fluid), aluminum phophate, cow pus, sucrose (sugar), copper, swine [pig] blood, alien viral protein particles, residues of chicken and egg embryo substances, thimerosal (a derivative of poisonous mercury); polysorbate, cadmium, horse blood, rabbit brain tissue, dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney cell culture, aborted human fetal tissue (from female abortions); sodium chloride, dairy (milk powder), nitric acid, sheep blood culture medium, sodium hydroxide, ammonium sulfate, glycerol, phenoxyethanol (car anti-freeze), calf serum, and over 70 more toxic substances. The medium or base of many of these vaccine serums is porcine [pig] pancreatic hydrolysate of casein."

the majority of so called Muslims
are injecting their children with pork

MAYBE a Muslim country here and there
might have a pork freee vaccine but
it has to have something UNCLEAN
and HARAM in it or else it wouldn't be
a vacccine


"there would be massive uproar, trust me when i tell you 'real' muslims like the Sunni's you hate so much are more skeptical on the whereabouts of pork products than you are. "

ignorance is bliss

eye know the masjids in the USA have
vaccination drives and they tell their
followers to get vaccinated....
and these are not these Mystical magical
"pork free vaccines" that you speak of

these Muslim children's parents in the USA
are injecting their children with
vaccines made from western white doctors
and yes they got pork en them

you need to jump on your unicorn or
barak and fly away somewhere to theland
of make believe!!!!!!

eye just posted an example of how
CHINA was sending Vaccines to
Saudi

you think China is sending Halal vaccines!!!!

LOL

you so naive

a Vacccine HAS to be dirty and filthy
or else its not Vaccine

"Knowcheeze your arguement of Islams origins being in the form of black Africans is no different than Iranians and Turks trying to claim that the prophet Muhammed and many other prophets were not Arab but infact Persian or Turkish. "

yes it is different

om telling true History

not white washed Arab(white) nationalism

"you have the same inferiority complex and general hate for the Arabs"

stop lying....eye am only REACTING
to the Arab's sneaky way of making
everyone think you MUST follow
the modern day Arab prophet over
every other prophet....

you tell the wacky sunni's to shut
the fuck up and stop lying and owl
shut the fuck up too

until then....deal with it...booh hoo

someone has to tell the truth

"as the Persians and Turks do. They cant accept that they are under influence of the Arab culture, and neither can you."

you don't know shit about me

om not under the influence of Arab culture

om opposing Arab Nationalism pure and simple

"dont twist facts and try to distance yourself from the main teachings of Islam by claiming that they arent real Islam, and that the Arabs are just trying to claim something thats indeed something that spawned from your 'race'. "

well tell your wacky sunni wife beaters
to stop claiming that to be a true Muslim
you MUST follow Muhammad with his 11
wives over every other prophet

om only reacting....

"all this arguement boils down to is that non-Arabs are uncomfortable accepting the parts of Arab culture which accompany the words of the Qu'ran. so they try to distinguish themselves from it by creating something for themselves. "

NO......as eye said....you wacky cooky sunni's
are promoting Arab Culture and using
Islam to do to it

om trying to right a wrong here
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Old 05-22-2010, 03:02 PM   #63
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:48 PM   #64
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"what are both of you doing with your Islam"

ahhhhh.....what om doing with Islam?

eye use knowledge wisdom and understanding
to cee the divinest culture which brings
the most power(electricity and truth)
......top it off with equality

and whut om doing here in this thread
with Islam is to save the so called
Orthidox Muslim world's babies
from Arab Nationalism disguised as
religion!!!!!!

personally eye am VERY interested
to know whut ingrediants are in
"Halal Vaccinations".....

the bottom line is that if one
knows the science of health
they would know that Vaccines
are not needed...Halal or Haram

Muhammad didn't get vaccinated
did he?

a Virus is dirty....even if it
comes from a Halal source

"does the Islam you have prevent your shit from stinking ?"

yes a plant based diet will defineatly
keep your shit from stinking

at least it will stink less than a
person who eats meat and dairy

"again - if one who calls himself an atheist practices being right and just and is known to have righteous conduct, he is more of a muslim than one who is not right and just and claims Islam"

EXACTAMUNDO!!!!!
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:30 PM   #65
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"that is why there is pork in the swine flu vaccination. i have not taken any vaccinations since 2003, and the only shot that had pork in it was the swine flu shot."----Sham-ill quote

and

""I am a Sunni Muslim, I have not vaccinated myself."---Sham-ill quote

so which one is the truth?

so you HAVE injected pork into your body
during your lifetime
so since we have now proven this

why didn't your sect save you from
the Hell fire of injecting pork into
your blood?

"if it is true that u cannot enter mecca without the swine flu shot then that is a political problem. it has nothing to do with the people of the political system being sunni. i am sunni, they are sunni, they are preventing me from going to mecca, we are both sunnis, and because of their restriction, it is a sunni vs. sunni thing because they are opposing me and i am opposing them. i do not represent all sunnis, and just because 95% of sunnis do something, they do not represent sunnis as a whole. Sunnis are not sunnis as to what a sunni does... Sunnis are defined by their texts."

nice fuckin copout.....lol

the claim sunni's make is that Sunni Islam
is not one of those sects headed for the hell
fire

so we cee that this is not true

"arab culture is an offspring of african culture"

naw.....Africans didn't originally eat
meat and milk.....or get vaccines....lol

these types of foods weaken the immune
system so that one is prone to sickness

this is why its so dangerous to mix
Arab Nationalism with Islam

"so i don't know why you are battling that. yes arabs are a mixture of hebrew and egyptian blood. Hagar = Egyptian = Ishmael's mother. Abraham = Hebrew = Ishmael's father. Therefore, Ishmael = mix of Egyptian and Hebrew. And God said Ishmael = father of the Arabs."

it doesn't matter whut their blood is a mixture of

om talking about the poisonous Arab culture
being flaunted as Islam

CULTURE.....not bloood

"So what does that mean? Arab = Egyptian Hebrew. Mix the hieroglyphic language with the hebrew language and u will get arabic. Look at the Hebrew letters and compare them with the Arabic letters, they look so similar. The terms are similar too. Ashalomaleichem compared to Asalamaylakum. Nearly identical. One is pure hebrew, the other is a combo of hebrew and egyptian.
Ishmael = Muhammad's ancestor, meaning Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael. Which means that Arabs (are descendants of Africans) and Muhammad are Hebrew-Egyptian."

everyone is descendants of Africans

big suprise

"Hebrews and Egyptians looked alike, that is why Moses passed off as Pharoah's grandson. In the Bible, Peter speaks in the Greek language to some Roman, and the Roman responded saying, "You speak Greek!? I thought you were Egyptian!?" and Peter responded "No, I am Hebrew." That just goes to show you that Hebrew and Egyptians were both black peoples that were African."

exactly....African

"Different sorts of African, but ultimately still African. So if the progenitors of the Arab people are African, what does that make Arabs? African. What does that make Arab culture? African."

don't get Arab confused with Modern Day Arab

and even if you did

the original Arab was black with straight hair
and was around before 50,000 years ago when
African started to spring up

the modern day Arab is defineatly not African
if that was the case modern day Arabs
wouldn't get so nervous and fidgidy
when you start talking about the
African origins of Islam
yes Muhammad could have had a little bit of African
blood.....but thats irrellevant

his culture was NOT African

"Adam is the first man, scientifically and anthropologically speaking, the first man was black, and African. So Adam was a black man. Allah said that Adam was the first Islamic man. Islam was introduced as a 'religion' 600 yrs after Isa bin Maryam/Yeshua ben Yosef's false death. When the Prophet Muhammad came, he said "I am not bringing something new, I am reviving the old ways"

ok

"Culture is defined as "The absolute way of life or living"
Adam was the first Islamic man"

owl let you get away with that one

"His culture was Islamic
Islamic is defined as
one who fully submits their will to the path of The God"

ok

"therefore, Adam, the first black african man, his way of life, or culture, was to fully submit his will to the path of The God, or being Islamic.

so.
Adam = 1st Man = Black = Islamic = Culture = African
which also means, african culture = islamic
which also means, original culture of the world = islamic
which means everyone should be living islamic"

now your getting it!

"so what is the point of me saying this
arabic culture is a form of african culture
the only culture muhammad followed was islamic culture
if u wanna mix islamic culture with arabic culture then do as u please"

he followed Islamic culture but it wasn't
the highest form of Islam

the Quran allows you to have sex
with your slaves......do you think
its okay to have slaves?

"but when ppl ask me what culture i am, i answer "islamic"
no i am not anything else, i am islam. that is all. if everyone accepted islam as their way of life there would be no division. we are all islam."

ok

b"y the way
i do not care what the "arab world" or for "any world" has to say...
i follow all the prophets, muhammad saw moses in heaven and they spoke, muhammad said that god told him ppl gotta pray 50x a day, moses was like nah man i tried that with the israelites and shit wasn't working, ask God to reduce that shit for you,so muhammad went to God and God made it simpler for us humans now,
5x a day.

so muhammad gave us the final revelation and an updated version for us to follow. we gotta follow his ways of praying and such because God revealed to him the update, and we gotta follow the update."

we gotta follow the easiest way?

that mentality is why Muslims here in the
USA look like shit healthwise

you just said Muhammad said

"I am not bringing something new, I am reviving the old ways"

but its an update tooo?...make up your mind

"but just because we follow the update does not mean we follow another prophet less. all the prophets are in this together, we don't give one more credit than the other. we love them all equally, we follow their word, we follow ALL of their words."

but you do follow another prophet less

you just said.....

"so muhammad gave us the final revelation and an updated version for us to follow. we gotta follow his ways of praying and such because God revealed to him the update, and we gotta follow the update."

so in truth that "we gotta" proves
that you don't view the prophet equally

"now tell me,
and explain to me clearly,
how Allah can be seen."

that question is off the subject
and would require a whole new thread

"i want to know where u get these human attributes of Allah from
citations please"

from the Quran....you have read it right?

"also,
i wanna know what u r talking about in reference to this greek stuff. school me on it and refer me to it "

read the thread
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"that is why there is pork in the swine flu vaccination. i have not taken any vaccinations since 2003, and the only shot that had pork in it was the swine flu shot."----Sham-ill quote

and

""I am a Sunni Muslim, I have not vaccinated myself."---Sham-ill quote

so which one is the truth?

so you HAVE injected pork into your body
during your lifetime
so since we have now proven this

why didn't your sect save you from
the Hell fire of injecting pork into
your blood?
when i said "i have not injected myself" i was referring to the swine flu shot, because i thought that is what you were originally talking about. So i was referring to the context of i never took the swine flu shot. I have taken the hepatitis b and whooping cough shots.

the hepatitis b shot has hepatitis in it, the whooping cough shot in it has the whooping cough disease or whatever in the shot, they don't have pork in it because it's not from pork that the disease or flu or whatever originates from. The swine flu originates from the flesh of the swine, that's why they put pork inside the vaccine.

They put the same disease in you but in a weaker form so that you get diseased and your immune system fights off the weaker form and gets stronger so that when the actual strong form of the disease hits you, your immune system is already updated to a stronger self so that the virus cannot harm you. it is only viruses that originate from the swine that have swine contaminated in them. i did not take the swine flu shot, so there should not be any swine in my blood.

as for, "how did your sect not save you from this" question,
how can a sect save me? sunni islam is just reading the quran, sakhi bukhari & muslim hadiths. we just have to live our lives by these texts. the people that are in high powers do not define sunni islam. sunni islam defines itself. whatever you start, you can have a bunch of followers, and there will be followers that will be seen as authorities in charge. but we are human and imperfect, so the authorities that are in charge could possibly not be the best candidates or maybe they were but their descendants take over and get corrupted. that is an individual aspect of those people, and an individual should not represent the whole.

i live in Canada, i went to school, and they said take the hepatitis shot back when i was in 4th grade, so i took it. how would "my sect" save me from this? the hepatitis shot doesnt even have swine in it anyway


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"if it is true that u cannot enter mecca without the swine flu shot then that is a political problem. it has nothing to do with the people of the political system being sunni. i am sunni, they are sunni, they are preventing me from going to mecca, we are both sunnis, and because of their restriction, it is a sunni vs. sunni thing because they are opposing me and i am opposing them. i do not represent all sunnis, and just because 95% of sunnis do something, they do not represent sunnis as a whole. Sunnis are not sunnis as to what a sunni does... Sunnis are defined by their texts."

nice fuckin copout.....lol

the claim sunni's make is that Sunni Islam
is not one of those sects headed for the hell
fire

so we cee that this is not true
if you live by the book i do not see how you are heading for the hell fire. if one commits actions that are contradictory to the book then one is not sunni islamic although one may claim it.

Quote:
"arab culture is an offspring of african culture"

naw.....Africans didn't originally eat
meat and milk.....or get vaccines....lol

these types of foods weaken the immune
system so that one is prone to sickness

this is why its so dangerous to mix
Arab Nationalism with Islam
"Meat is not a necessity in Shari'ah, and in the old days most Muslims used to eat meat, if they were wealthy, like middle class-once a week on Friday. If they were poor-on the Eids."

"So traditionally Muslims were semi-vegetarians. The Prophet was, I mean, technically, the Prophet (SAWS) was in that category. He was not a meat-eater. Most of his meals did not have meat in them. And the proof of that is clearly in the Muwatta-when Sayyidina Umar says, 'Beware of meat, because it has an addiction like the addiction of wine.' And the other hadith in the Muwatta-there is a chapter called 'Bab al-Laham,' the chapter of laham, the chapter of meat. Both are from Sayyidina Umar. And Umar, during his khilafa, prohibited people from eating meat two days in a row. He only allowed them to eat [it] every other day. And the khalifa has that right to do that. He did not let people eat meat every day - he saw one man eating meat every day, and he said to him, 'Every time you get hungry you go out and buy meat? Right? In other words, every time your nafs wants meat, you go out and buy it?' He said, 'Yeah, Amir al-Mumineen, ana qaram,' which in Arabic, 'qaram' means 'I love meat'-he's a carnivore, he loves meat. And Sayyidina Umar said, 'It would be better for you to roll up your tummy a little bit so that other people can eat.'"

eating meat is like having an all-out dessert- it's supposed to be a once in a blue moon treat. TREAT. as in you treat yourself once in a while. I'm sure some original Africans ate meat once in a while or else we would not have evolved to have bigger brains... Scientists have said that our brains have gotten bigger from the consumption of protein through eating meat.. Original man, african hunters with spears. They probably did not eat it all the time, but once in a while i think they did.

i myself, for 4 months now, have not eaten meat. the only things that prevent me from being a full vegeterian is that i eat eggs, soy meat, fish, and i drink protein shakes (i hit the gym 5x a week so i need protein and calories, cuz im bulking up... eggs are a high source of protein.)
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"so i don't know why you are battling that. yes arabs are a mixture of hebrew and egyptian blood. Hagar = Egyptian = Ishmael's mother. Abraham = Hebrew = Ishmael's father. Therefore, Ishmael = mix of Egyptian and Hebrew. And God said Ishmael = father of the Arabs."

it doesn't matter whut their blood is a mixture of

om talking about the poisonous Arab culture
being flaunted as Islam

CULTURE.....not bloood
ok well when you speak of sunni islam it sounds like you are saying it is arab culture, but i am saying islam culture is islam culture and whoever wants to live that life, lives it.

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"So what does that mean? Arab = Egyptian Hebrew. Mix the hieroglyphic language with the hebrew language and u will get arabic. Look at the Hebrew letters and compare them with the Arabic letters, they look so similar. The terms are similar too. Ashalomaleichem compared to Asalamaylakum. Nearly identical. One is pure hebrew, the other is a combo of hebrew and egyptian.
Ishmael = Muhammad's ancestor, meaning Muhammad is a descendant of Ishmael. Which means that Arabs (are descendants of Africans) and Muhammad are Hebrew-Egyptian."

everyone is descendants of Africans

big suprise

"Hebrews and Egyptians looked alike, that is why Moses passed off as Pharoah's grandson. In the Bible, Peter speaks in the Greek language to some Roman, and the Roman responded saying, "You speak Greek!? I thought you were Egyptian!?" and Peter responded "No, I am Hebrew." That just goes to show you that Hebrew and Egyptians were both black peoples that were African."

exactly....African

"Different sorts of African, but ultimately still African. So if the progenitors of the Arab people are African, what does that make Arabs? African. What does that make Arab culture? African."

don't get Arab confused with Modern Day Arab

and even if you did

the original Arab was black with straight hair
and was around before 50,000 years ago when
African started to spring up

the modern day Arab is defineatly not African
if that was the case modern day Arabs
wouldn't get so nervous and fidgidy
when you start talking about the
African origins of Islam
yes Muhammad could have had a little bit of African
blood.....but thats irrellevant

his culture was NOT African
his culture was not African because it was Islamic.
the modern day arab is the not the original arab who was a hebrew-egyptian mix, which i have proven is a pure african blood. the modern day arab is arabs getting raped by europeans. In Roman times, Phoenicians lived in Sicily. They were black people. Punic wars... Hannibal/Carthagenians VS the Romans. Now the Romans ultimately won, and they raped the Cartagenian Phoenicians who were black. Today, in Italy, Sicilians consider themselves different Italians than the rest of the Italians. And Usually, although Italians are white, The Sicilians have curly hair. Some Sicilians look like our modern day arabs too. See the relation? Arab (Hebrew-Egyptian) breeding with Europeans is what led to the modern day stereotyped version of Arabs, although there are a lot of Arabs with black skin that you would think they were from Africa since their hair is nappy too.

Don't you know there are Arabs with straight hair, and there are arabs with naps? I've seen Arabs with 360 waves.

"Everyone is descendants of Africans"
"the modern day Arab is definitely not African"
I thought Everyone would be African if everyone descended from Africans??

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"Adam is the first man, scientifically and anthropologically speaking, the first man was black, and African. So Adam was a black man. Allah said that Adam was the first Islamic man. Islam was introduced as a 'religion' 600 yrs after Isa bin Maryam/Yeshua ben Yosef's false death. When the Prophet Muhammad came, he said "I am not bringing something new, I am reviving the old ways"

ok

"Culture is defined as "The absolute way of life or living"
Adam was the first Islamic man"

owl let you get away with that one

"His culture was Islamic
Islamic is defined as
one who fully submits their will to the path of The God"

ok

"therefore, Adam, the first black african man, his way of life, or culture, was to fully submit his will to the path of The God, or being Islamic.

so.
Adam = 1st Man = Black = Islamic = Culture = African
which also means, african culture = islamic
which also means, original culture of the world = islamic
which means everyone should be living islamic"

now your getting it!

"so what is the point of me saying this
arabic culture is a form of african culture
the only culture muhammad followed was islamic culture
if u wanna mix islamic culture with arabic culture then do as u please"

he followed Islamic culture but it wasn't
the highest form of Islam

the Quran allows you to have sex
with your slaves......do you think
its okay to have slaves?
in my parents' country, Bangladesh, every house has a 'slave'. they are looked more like maids or butlers and stuff. but... they are like a second wife if you really think about it. all they do is clean the house, help the females cook the food. but it's like they are part of the family. they watch TV, they play around and stuff too. it's not the maerican version of 'slave' it aint even close to the same level of grotesque. 'slave' is a social status in the hierarchy.... elite, middle class, lower class, slave. but it's not like some chain and whip shit. it's on some i'm a slave take me in your house offer me your protection, food, shelter, etc, an i'll offer my services. that is what it is.
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"but when ppl ask me what culture i am, i answer "islamic"
no i am not anything else, i am islam. that is all. if everyone accepted islam as their way of life there would be no division. we are all islam."

ok

b"y the way
i do not care what the "arab world" or for "any world" has to say...
i follow all the prophets, muhammad saw moses in heaven and they spoke, muhammad said that god told him ppl gotta pray 50x a day, moses was like nah man i tried that with the israelites and shit wasn't working, ask God to reduce that shit for you,so muhammad went to God and God made it simpler for us humans now,
5x a day.

so muhammad gave us the final revelation and an updated version for us to follow. we gotta follow his ways of praying and such because God revealed to him the update, and we gotta follow the update."

we gotta follow the easiest way?

that mentality is why Muslims here in the
USA look like shit healthwise

you just said Muhammad said

"I am not bringing something new, I am reviving the old ways"

but its an update tooo?...make up your mind
he was reviving the culture of submitting one's self to The God but bringing in an update. The Prophets each brought an update or else there would only be one update and one prophet. each prophet came to reveal so that people can come back to the right path because they deviated from it. moses clearly told muhammad to ask Allah to reduce the number of prayers per day, because the Israelites weren't able to pray 50x a day. Anyways, the 5x prayer has been constructed in a way whereas it counts as equivalent to the 50x prayer the israelites had to do because the 5x prayer is complicated, complex, has a lot of restrictions, rules & regulations.
Quote:
"but just because we follow the update does not mean we follow another prophet less. all the prophets are in this together, we don't give one more credit than the other. we love them all equally, we follow their word, we follow ALL of their words."

but you do follow another prophet less

you just said.....

"so muhammad gave us the final revelation and an updated version for us to follow. we gotta follow his ways of praying and such because God revealed to him the update, and we gotta follow the update."

so in truth that "we gotta" proves
that you don't view the prophet equally
it is not following a prophet less because it is a building. Adam laid the first brick, the next prophet added the next brick, etc etc etc david put on the next brick solomon put the enxt brick, so on so forth, elijah put the next brick, jesus put the next brick, and muhammaded added the next brick. each layer of brick is something new added on. we aint forgetting the old prophets, their build is with muhammad who added a new brick to the build...
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"now tell me,
and explain to me clearly,
how Allah can be seen."

that question is off the subject
and would require a whole new thread
ok

Quote:
"i want to know where u get these human attributes of Allah from
citations please"

from the Quran....you have read it right?
Yes... I do not remember Allah being a regular human. Citations?
Quote:
"also,
i wanna know what u r talking about in reference to this greek stuff. school me on it and refer me to it "

read the thread

.... citations?? references??
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So much waste of time and energy to bring nothing relevant, try again !
uhhuh Wife Beater

like eye said....we done with you...you backed
yourself into a corner.....a pretty shitty corner
at that!

but if you want more answer these questions

questions that might get you thinking about
the historical context in which the Quran
was written and the people to whom it was given to

a)do u think its okay to have slaves?

b)do u think that we should slay infidels
wherever we cee them?

c)do you really think that the hadith
which includes stories about Muhammads
sexual habits should be considered
LINKED with the Quran?

and also......

another question eye wanna ask you...Hell spawn
da Wife Beater is....

When Muhammad had multiple wives was
he having sex with all of them?

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uhhuh Wife Beater

like eye said....we done with you...you backed
yourself into a corner.....a pretty shitty corner
at that!

but if you want more answer these questions

questions that might get you thinking about
the historical context in which the Quran
was written and the people to whom it was given to
I know I might be crazy to answer you because you are totally irrelevant and it is leading nowhere but I'll do it anyway.

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a)do u think its okay to have slaves?
If you insinuate that Islam encourage slavery, you still in the wrong. Islam encourage freeing slaves. Note that slavery was a common thing through the ages and since a long time and when Islam was revealed it claimed that people are equal. Islam gave slaves rights and protection from ill treatment. Freeing slaves was the expiation for many sins, including breaking vows and accidental killings and this aims on the long term to abolish slavery amongst mankind.

“Visit the ill, feed the hungry and release the slaves” saheeh al bukhari

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b)do u think that we should slay infidels
wherever we cee them?
Of course not, I already explained this many times, check the old discussions : http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=35

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c)do you really think that the hadith
which includes stories about Muhammads
sexual habits should be considered
LINKED with the Quran?
What do you mean with sexual habit ?

Islam codifies any aspects of the every day life so hadiths about sexuality should be linked of course.

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and also......

another question eye wanna ask you...Hell spawn
da Wife Beater is....

When Muhammad had multiple wives was
he having sex with all of them?

PEACE
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"when i said "i have not injected myself" i was referring to the swine flu shot, because i thought that is what you were originally talking about. So i was referring to the context of i never took the swine flu shot. I have taken the hepatitis b and whooping cough shots. "

how many times have u been vaccinated since birth?
and in what countries did you recieve these vaccinations?

eye been doing research and Malaysia just started
searching for Halal vaccines in 2007!!!!

just because it doesn't have swine in it doesn't mean
its not Haram and Filthy

"Most people do not know it (because the pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccine serums will never let the public know), but various vaccine serums are made up of: formaldehyde (embalming fluid), aluminum phophate, cow pus, sucrose (sugar), copper, swine [pig] blood, alien viral protein particles, residues of chicken and egg embryo substances, thimerosal (a derivative of poisonous mercury); polysorbate, cadmium, horse blood, rabbit brain tissue, dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney cell culture, aborted human fetal tissue (from female abortions); sodium chloride, dairy (milk powder), nitric acid, sheep blood culture medium, sodium hydroxide, ammonium sulfate, glycerol, phenoxyethanol (car anti-freeze), calf serum, and over 70 more toxic substances. The medium or base of many of these vaccine serums is porcine [pig] pancreatic hydrolysate of casein."----Djehuty Maat Ra

how do u know all those vaccines you was given
since birth didn't have any swine in it?

and how do u know all those vaccines you
was given since birth didn't have BLOOD
or something else Haram in it?

and how come you DON'T know that any way
you look at it a Vaccine has be UNCLEAN
for it to be a Vaccine

you go to the Masjid and clean yourself
of the filth before prayer......yet you think its okay
to inject filth into yourself?

bottom line....its FILTHY.....its dirty and unclean
  1. Inactivated or "killed" vaccines: A chemical called formalin is used to kill the disease causing organism, but it still retain the antigen that triggers the body's immune response to create antibodies. Examples of this type of vaccine include the typhoid vaccine and the poliomyelitis vaccine.
  2. Acellular vaccines: These vaccines use only the antigenic portion of the pathogen, such as its capsule, flagella, or protein cell wall. The Haemophilus influenzae B (HIB) vaccine is an example of an acellular vaccine. Since these vaccines don't produce a very strong immune response, they require a "booster" shot later on..
  3. Attenuated vaccine: This type uses a weakened form or the live disease causing organism and creates the strongest immune response. Examples of attenuated vaccines include the one for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR). Immunity lasts a lifetime.
  4. Toxoid vaccine: The diphtheria and tetanus vaccines are examples of this type of immunization. They are made by using the toxin produced by the pathogen and then reducing its harmful affects with an aluminum salt. Toxoids require periodic booster shots.
  5. Mimics: The vaccine for deadly smallpox was created this way by using the similar, but far less virulent, cowpox. In this instance, the immune response to the similar organism is enough to provide immunity.
  6. Subunit vaccines: This recombinant DNA technology method of vaccine creation uses the genes of the pathogen that code for the parts of the organism that produce the strongest immune response. The genes are inserted into bacteria or yeast, which mass produce the desired proteins. These pathogenic but non-disease causing molecules can then be isolated, purified and used to produce the vaccine. The Hepatitis B vaccine is created this way.
Muhammad did not get Vaccinated!!!
why do u....if you claim to follow him?

"the hepatitis b shot has hepatitis in it, the whooping cough shot in it has the whooping cough disease or whatever in the shot, they don't have pork in it because it's not from pork that the disease or flu or whatever originates from. The swine flu originates from the flesh of the swine, that's why they put pork inside the vaccine."

how do u know it doesn't have some other
Haram ingrediant in it....and we already know
it does....because Vaccines are full
of DIRTY UNCLEAN(Haram) Viruses

this is why following modern day Arab culture
is so terrible......

"They put the same disease in you but in a weaker form so that you get diseased and your immune system fights off the weaker form and gets stronger so that when the actual strong form of the disease hits you, your immune system is already updated to a stronger self so that the virus cannot harm you. it is only viruses that originate from the swine that have swine contaminated in them. i did not take the swine flu shot, so there should not be any swine in my blood.
as for, "how did your sect not save you from this" question,
how can a sect save me? sunni islam is just reading the quran, sakhi bukhari & muslim hadiths. we just have to live our lives by these texts. the people that are in high powers do not define sunni islam. sunni islam defines itself. whatever you start, you can have a bunch of followers, and there will be followers that will be seen as authorities in charge. but we are human and imperfect, so the authorities that are in charge could possibly not be the best candidates or maybe they were but their descendants take over and get corrupted. that is an individual aspect of those people, and an individual should not represent the whole."

its clear evidence that Sunni Islam is not gonna save
you......

"i live in Canada, i went to school, and they said take the hepatitis shot back when i was in 4th grade, so i took it. how would "my sect" save me from this? the hepatitis shot doesnt even have swine in it anyway"

ahhhh finally the truth comes out

so you was vaccinated in a WESTERN COUNTRY huh?

LOL

bad move admitting that one....cuz guess what

YOUR PARENTS INJECTED YOU WITH HARAM VACCINES!!!!

LOL

so after all this we finally get to the truth about Sham-iLL

you been denying this for days now and we finally know

thanks

if you would have said you grew up in a Muslim country
you might have been able to prolong your credability
here in this thread pertaining to Vaccines

but you was Vaccinated in a western country!!!!!!

trust me...there was something Haram in those
Vaccines you recieved....
lets say some MIRACLE occured and you
didn't actually have Pork in the vaccines(which is
damn near impossible)

those Canadians still put some blood in the VAccine eh?

eh?

those Canadians still put things
in their vaccines thats
on that list eye posted above from Djehuty Maat Ra

so now we got to the bottom of it

yes your Sunni sect did NOT save you
from your parents injecting you with Haram shit

"if you live by the book i do not see how you are heading for the hell fire. if one commits actions that are contradictory to the book then one is not sunni islamic although one may claim it."

om not retarded enough to acccuse anybody
of any school of thought of going to a hell
fire just because they choose a certain sect
of Islam.....

as eye have said repeatedly....this
is a reaction to religious tyranny

om trying to save the babies here

to restate.....if you are living right
you don't need vaccines

they are unclean, unnatural and have actually
caused more disease then they prevented

"So traditionally Muslims were semi-vegetarians. The Prophet was, I mean, technically, the Prophet (SAWS) was in that category. He was not a meat-eater. Most of his meals did not have meat in them. And the proof of that is clearly in the Muwatta-when Sayyidina Umar says, 'Beware of meat, because it has an addiction like the addiction of wine.' And the other hadith in the Muwatta-there is a chapter called 'Bab al-Laham,' the chapter of laham, the chapter of meat. Both are from Sayyidina Umar. And Umar, during his khilafa, prohibited people from eating meat two days in a row. He only allowed them to eat [it] every other day. And the khalifa has that right to do that. He did not let people eat meat every day - he saw one man eating meat every day, and he said to him, 'Every time you get hungry you go out and buy meat? Right? In other words, every time your nafs wants meat, you go out and buy it?' He said, 'Yeah, Amir al-Mumineen, ana qaram,' which in Arabic, 'qaram' means 'I love meat'-he's a carnivore, he loves meat. And Sayyidina Umar said, 'It would be better for you to roll up your tummy a little bit so that other people can eat.'"

sincere thanks for those quotes Sham iLL

eye enjoyed that and never knew of those

"eating meat is like having an all-out dessert- it's supposed to be a once in a blue moon treat. TREAT. as in you treat yourself once in a while."

you are the first so called orthidox Muslim
eye have ever "heard" say that

"I'm sure some original Africans ate meat once in a while or else we would not have evolved to have bigger brains... Scientists have said that our brains have gotten bigger from the consumption of protein through eating meat.. Original man, african hunters with spears. They probably did not eat it all the time, but once in a while i think they did."

later in history yes...originally HELL NO!!!!

"i myself, for 4 months now, have not eaten meat. the only things that prevent me from being a full vegeterian is that i eat eggs, soy meat, fish, and i drink protein shakes (i hit the gym 5x a week so i need protein and calories, cuz im bulking up... eggs are a high source of protein.)"

thats nice to "hear"

now all you gotta do is get completely vegan

"his culture was not African because it was Islamic."

Original African culture is the highest form of Islam

"the modern day arab is the not the original arab who was a hebrew-egyptian mix, which i have proven is a pure african blood."

the original Arab was around 100's
of thousands of years before there
was such thing as a Hebrew or
an Egyptian

"the modern day arab is arabs getting raped by europeans."

getting raped by or teaming up with europeans

"In Roman times, Phoenicians lived in Sicily. They were black people. Punic wars... Hannibal/Carthagenians VS the Romans. Now the Romans ultimately won, and they raped the Cartagenian Phoenicians who were black. Today, in Italy, Sicilians consider themselves different Italians than the rest of the Italians. And Usually, although Italians are white, The Sicilians have curly hair. Some Sicilians look like our modern day arabs too. See the relation? Arab (Hebrew-Egyptian) breeding with Europeans is what led to the modern day stereotyped version of Arabs, although there are a lot of Arabs with black skin that you would think they were from Africa since their hair is nappy too."

yes a few Italians today are techncially black people

"Don't you know there are Arabs with straight hair, and there are arabs with naps? I've seen Arabs with 360 waves."

om sure and that African influence genetically

but om talking more about Culture

you can look like Wesley Snipes and live
a modern day Arab culture

my problem with so called Orthidox Islam
is the promotion of the CULTURE
of the modern day Arab

it really has nothing personally to do with
genetics

"in my parents' country, Bangladesh, every house has a 'slave'. they are looked more like maids or butlers and stuff. but... they are like a second wife if you really think about it. all they do is clean the house, help the females cook the food. but it's like they are part of the family. they watch TV, they play around and stuff too. it's not the maerican version of 'slave' it aint even close to the same level of grotesque. 'slave' is a social status in the hierarchy.... elite, middle class, lower class, slave. but it's not like some chain and whip shit. it's on some i'm a slave take me in your house offer me your protection, food, shelter, etc, an i'll offer my services. that is what it is."

you are talking about an employee

nobody is in "possessesion of anyone else"

the QUran says you can have sex with
"slaves whom your right hand possesses"

which is more proof that some of what is
in the Quran is specificallly for those
savage Arabs of Muhammads time

and not for us

its proof that there is a historical context
to approach in some of these Quran verses

"he was reviving the culture of submitting one's self to The God but bringing in an update. The Prophets each brought an update or else there would only be one update and one prophet. each prophet came to reveal so that people can come back to the right path because they deviated from it. moses clearly told muhammad to ask Allah to reduce the number of prayers per day, because the Israelites weren't able to pray 50x a day. Anyways, the 5x prayer has been constructed in a way whereas it counts as equivalent to the 50x prayer the israelites had to do because the 5x prayer is complicated, complex, has a lot of restrictions, rules & regulations."

yes a easy to follow update

"it is not following a prophet less because it is a building. Adam laid the first brick, the next prophet added the next brick, etc etc etc david put on the next brick solomon put the enxt brick, so on so forth, elijah put the next brick, jesus put the next brick, and muhammaded added the next brick. each layer of brick is something new added on. we aint forgetting the old prophets, their build is with muhammad who added a new brick to the build..."

okay...thats cool...lets just NOT claim that you
gotta focus on the Muhammad block primarily
to be a Muslim

PEACE
"when i said "i have not injected myself" i was referring to the swine flu shot, because i thought that is what you were originally talking about. So i was referring to the context of i never took the swine flu shot. I have taken the hepatitis b and whooping cough shots. "

how many times have u been vaccinated since birth?
and in what countries did you recieve these vaccinations?

eye been doing research and Malaysia just started
searching for Halal vaccines in 2007!!!!

just because it doesn't have swine in it doesn't mean
its not Haram and Filthy

"Most people do not know it (because the pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccine serums will never let the public know), but various vaccine serums are made up of: formaldehyde (embalming fluid), aluminum phophate, cow pus, sucrose (sugar), copper, swine [pig] blood, alien viral protein particles, residues of chicken and egg embryo substances, thimerosal (a derivative of poisonous mercury); polysorbate, cadmium, horse blood, rabbit brain tissue, dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney cell culture, aborted human fetal tissue (from female abortions); sodium chloride, dairy (milk powder), nitric acid, sheep blood culture medium, sodium hydroxide, ammonium sulfate, glycerol, phenoxyethanol (car anti-freeze), calf serum, and over 70 more toxic substances. The medium or base of many of these vaccine serums is porcine [pig] pancreatic hydrolysate of casein."----Djehuty Maat Ra

how do u know all those vaccines you was given
since birth didn't have any swine in it?

and how do u know all those vaccines you
was given since birth didn't have BLOOD
or something else Haram in it?

and how come you DON'T know that any way
you look at it a Vaccine has be UNCLEAN
for it to be a Vaccine

you go to the Masjid and clean yourself
of the filth before prayer......yet you think its okay
to inject filth into yourself?

bottom line....its FILTHY.....its dirty and unclean
  1. Inactivated or "killed" vaccines: A chemical called formalin is used to kill the disease causing organism, but it still retain the antigen that triggers the body's immune response to create antibodies. Examples of this type of vaccine include the typhoid vaccine and the poliomyelitis vaccine.
  2. Acellular vaccines: These vaccines use only the antigenic portion of the pathogen, such as its capsule, flagella, or protein cell wall. The Haemophilus influenzae B (HIB) vaccine is an example of an acellular vaccine. Since these vaccines don't produce a very strong immune response, they require a "booster" shot later on..
  3. Attenuated vaccine: This type uses a weakened form or the live disease causing organism and creates the strongest immune response. Examples of attenuated vaccines include the one for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR). Immunity lasts a lifetime.
  4. Toxoid vaccine: The diphtheria and tetanus vaccines are examples of this type of immunization. They are made by using the toxin produced by the pathogen and then reducing its harmful affects with an aluminum salt. Toxoids require periodic booster shots.
  5. Mimics: The vaccine for deadly smallpox was created this way by using the similar, but far less virulent, cowpox. In this instance, the immune response to the similar organism is enough to provide immunity.
  6. Subunit vaccines: This recombinant DNA technology method of vaccine creation uses the genes of the pathogen that code for the parts of the organism that produce the strongest immune response. The genes are inserted into bacteria or yeast, which mass produce the desired proteins. These pathogenic but non-disease causing molecules can then be isolated, purified and used to produce the vaccine. The Hepatitis B vaccine is created this way.
Muhammad did not get Vaccinated!!!
why do u....if you claim to follow him?

"the hepatitis b shot has hepatitis in it, the whooping cough shot in it has the whooping cough disease or whatever in the shot, they don't have pork in it because it's not from pork that the disease or flu or whatever originates from. The swine flu originates from the flesh of the swine, that's why they put pork inside the vaccine."

how do u know it doesn't have some other
Haram ingrediant in it....and we already know
it does....because Vaccines are full
of DIRTY UNCLEAN(Haram) Viruses

this is why following modern day Arab culture
is so terrible......

"They put the same disease in you but in a weaker form so that you get diseased and your immune system fights off the weaker form and gets stronger so that when the actual strong form of the disease hits you, your immune system is already updated to a stronger self so that the virus cannot harm you. it is only viruses that originate from the swine that have swine contaminated in them. i did not take the swine flu shot, so there should not be any swine in my blood.
as for, "how did your sect not save you from this" question,
how can a sect save me? sunni islam is just reading the quran, sakhi bukhari & muslim hadiths. we just have to live our lives by these texts. the people that are in high powers do not define sunni islam. sunni islam defines itself. whatever you start, you can have a bunch of followers, and there will be followers that will be seen as authorities in charge. but we are human and imperfect, so the authorities that are in charge could possibly not be the best candidates or maybe they were but their descendants take over and get corrupted. that is an individual aspect of those people, and an individual should not represent the whole."

its clear evidence that Sunni Islam is not gonna save
you......

"i live in Canada, i went to school, and they said take the hepatitis shot back when i was in 4th grade, so i took it. how would "my sect" save me from this? the hepatitis shot doesnt even have swine in it anyway"

ahhhh finally the truth comes out

so you was vaccinated in a WESTERN COUNTRY huh?

LOL

bad move admitting that one....cuz guess what

YOUR PARENTS INJECTED YOU WITH HARAM VACCINES!!!!

LOL

so after all this we finally get to the truth about Sham-iLL

you been denying this for days now and we finally know

thanks

if you would have said you grew up in a Muslim country
you might have been able to prolong your credability
here in this thread pertaining to Vaccines

but you was Vaccinated in a western country!!!!!!

trust me...there was something Haram in those
Vaccines you recieved....
lets say some MIRACLE occured and you
didn't actually have Pork in the vaccines(which is
damn near impossible)

those Canadians still put some blood in the VAccine eh?

eh?

those Canadians still put things
in their vaccines thats
on that list eye posted above from Djehuty Maat Ra

so now we got to the bottom of it

yes your Sunni sect did NOT save you
from your parents injecting you with Haram shit

"if you live by the book i do not see how you are heading for the hell fire. if one commits actions that are contradictory to the book then one is not sunni islamic although one may claim it."

om not retarded enough to acccuse anybody
of any school of thought of going to a hell
fire just because they choose a certain sect
of Islam.....

as eye have said repeatedly....this
is a reaction to religious tyranny

om trying to save the babies here

to restate.....if you are living right
you don't need vaccines

they are unclean, unnatural and have actually
caused more disease then they prevented

"So traditionally Muslims were semi-vegetarians. The Prophet was, I mean, technically, the Prophet (SAWS) was in that category. He was not a meat-eater. Most of his meals did not have meat in them. And the proof of that is clearly in the Muwatta-when Sayyidina Umar says, 'Beware of meat, because it has an addiction like the addiction of wine.' And the other hadith in the Muwatta-there is a chapter called 'Bab al-Laham,' the chapter of laham, the chapter of meat. Both are from Sayyidina Umar. And Umar, during his khilafa, prohibited people from eating meat two days in a row. He only allowed them to eat [it] every other day. And the khalifa has that right to do that. He did not let people eat meat every day - he saw one man eating meat every day, and he said to him, 'Every time you get hungry you go out and buy meat? Right? In other words, every time your nafs wants meat, you go out and buy it?' He said, 'Yeah, Amir al-Mumineen, ana qaram,' which in Arabic, 'qaram' means 'I love meat'-he's a carnivore, he loves meat. And Sayyidina Umar said, 'It would be better for you to roll up your tummy a little bit so that other people can eat.'"

sincere thanks for those quotes Sham iLL

eye enjoyed that and never knew of those

"eating meat is like having an all-out dessert- it's supposed to be a once in a blue moon treat. TREAT. as in you treat yourself once in a while."

you are the first so called orthidox Muslim
eye have ever "heard" say that

"I'm sure some original Africans ate meat once in a while or else we would not have evolved to have bigger brains... Scientists have said that our brains have gotten bigger from the consumption of protein through eating meat.. Original man, african hunters with spears. They probably did not eat it all the time, but once in a while i think they did."

later in history yes...originally HELL NO!!!!

"i myself, for 4 months now, have not eaten meat. the only things that prevent me from being a full vegeterian is that i eat eggs, soy meat, fish, and i drink protein shakes (i hit the gym 5x a week so i need protein and calories, cuz im bulking up... eggs are a high source of protein.)"

thats nice to "hear"

now all you gotta do is get completely vegan

"his culture was not African because it was Islamic."

Original African culture is the highest form of Islam

"the modern day arab is the not the original arab who was a hebrew-egyptian mix, which i have proven is a pure african blood."

the original Arab was around 100's
of thousands of years before there
was such thing as a Hebrew or
an Egyptian

"the modern day arab is arabs getting raped by europeans."

getting raped by or teaming up with europeans

"In Roman times, Phoenicians lived in Sicily. They were black people. Punic wars... Hannibal/Carthagenians VS the Romans. Now the Romans ultimately won, and they raped the Cartagenian Phoenicians who were black. Today, in Italy, Sicilians consider themselves different Italians than the rest of the Italians. And Usually, although Italians are white, The Sicilians have curly hair. Some Sicilians look like our modern day arabs too. See the relation? Arab (Hebrew-Egyptian) breeding with Europeans is what led to the modern day stereotyped version of Arabs, although there are a lot of Arabs with black skin that you would think they were from Africa since their hair is nappy too."

yes a few Italians today are techncially black people

"Don't you know there are Arabs with straight hair, and there are arabs with naps? I've seen Arabs with 360 waves."

om sure and that African influence genetically

but om talking more about Culture

you can look like Wesley Snipes and live
a modern day Arab culture

my problem with so called Orthidox Islam
is the promotion of the CULTURE
of the modern day Arab

it really has nothing personally to do with
genetics

"in my parents' country, Bangladesh, every house has a 'slave'. they are looked more like maids or butlers and stuff. but... they are like a second wife if you really think about it. all they do is clean the house, help the females cook the food. but it's like they are part of the family. they watch TV, they play around and stuff too. it's not the maerican version of 'slave' it aint even close to the same level of grotesque. 'slave' is a social status in the hierarchy.... elite, middle class, lower class, slave. but it's not like some chain and whip shit. it's on some i'm a slave take me in your house offer me your protection, food, shelter, etc, an i'll offer my services. that is what it is."

you are talking about an employee

nobody is in "possessesion of anyone else"

the QUran says you can have sex with
"slaves whom your right hand possesses"

which is more proof that some of what is
in the Quran is specificallly for those
savage Arabs of Muhammads time

and not for us

its proof that there is a historical context
to approach in some of these Quran verses

"he was reviving the culture of submitting one's self to The God but bringing in an update. The Prophets each brought an update or else there would only be one update and one prophet. each prophet came to reveal so that people can come back to the right path because they deviated from it. moses clearly told muhammad to ask Allah to reduce the number of prayers per day, because the Israelites weren't able to pray 50x a day. Anyways, the 5x prayer has been constructed in a way whereas it counts as equivalent to the 50x prayer the israelites had to do because the 5x prayer is complicated, complex, has a lot of restrictions, rules & regulations."

yes a easy to follow update

"it is not following a prophet less because it is a building. Adam laid the first brick, the next prophet added the next brick, etc etc etc david put on the next brick solomon put the enxt brick, so on so forth, elijah put the next brick, jesus put the next brick, and muhammaded added the next brick. each layer of brick is something new added on. we aint forgetting the old prophets, their build is with muhammad who added a new brick to the build..."

okay...thats cool...lets just NOT claim that you
gotta focus on the Muhammad block primarily
to be a Muslim

PEACE
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"when i said "i have not injected myself" i was referring to the swine flu shot, because i thought that is what you were originally talking about. So i was referring to the context of i never took the swine flu shot. I have taken the hepatitis b and whooping cough shots. "

how many times have u been vaccinated since birth?
and in what countries did you recieve these vaccinations?
Not sure how many times i have been vaccinated, i think myabe 6 or 7 times?
I received them in Canada.

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eye been doing research and Malaysia just started
searching for Halal vaccines in 2007!!!!

just because it doesn't have swine in it doesn't mean
its not Haram and Filthy

"Most people do not know it (because the pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccine serums will never let the public know), but various vaccine serums are made up of: formaldehyde (embalming fluid), aluminum phophate, cow pus, sucrose (sugar), copper, swine [pig] blood, alien viral protein particles, residues of chicken and egg embryo substances, thimerosal (a derivative of poisonous mercury); polysorbate, cadmium, horse blood, rabbit brain tissue, dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney cell culture, aborted human fetal tissue (from female abortions); sodium chloride, dairy (milk powder), nitric acid, sheep blood culture medium, sodium hydroxide, ammonium sulfate, glycerol, phenoxyethanol (car anti-freeze), calf serum, and over 70 more toxic substances. The medium or base of many of these vaccine serums is porcine [pig] pancreatic hydrolysate of casein."----Djehuty Maat Ra
Most people do not know, because the pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccine serums will never let the public know...
So how is this person gonna know what's in the vaccine if the pharmaceutical companies won't let the public know?

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how do u know all those vaccines you was given
since birth didn't have any swine in it?
I guess we can never really 'know' anything then. How do we know that there isn't swine genetics engineered into seeds of every fruits and vegetables and other plants in the world, and now no pure plant is left because they got eaten off, rotted, or wtv, but became extinct, and now all that's left is the impure genetically modified plants left on the planet?
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and how do u know all those vaccines you
was given since birth didn't have BLOOD
or something else Haram in it?
i guess we will never know what was in them, but it could potentially be anything and everything.

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and how come you DON'T know that any way
you look at it a Vaccine has be UNCLEAN
for it to be a Vaccine
vaccines contain weaker forms of the viruses so your antigens/antibodies can fight off the disease. you have to get sick in your life to battle the sickness, but if a sickness is stronger than your immune system, then you will die. now i'm not promoting the idea of vaccination, but i am skeptical about this whole what is inside the vaccines. i was vaccinated when i was young, now i'm older, i don't get vaccinated anymore, and I only really get "sick" one a year... I get spring fever and have it for 3 days and it goes away.

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you go to the Masjid and clean yourself
of the filth before prayer......yet you think its okay
to inject filth into yourself?

bottom line....its FILTHY.....its dirty and unclean
Filthiness can be washed or cleansed.
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  1. Inactivated or "killed" vaccines: A chemical called formalin is used to kill the disease causing organism, but it still retain the antigen that triggers the body's immune response to create antibodies. Examples of this type of vaccine include the typhoid vaccine and the poliomyelitis vaccine.
  2. Acellular vaccines: These vaccines use only the antigenic portion of the pathogen, such as its capsule, flagella, or protein cell wall. The Haemophilus influenzae B (HIB) vaccine is an example of an acellular vaccine. Since these vaccines don't produce a very strong immune response, they require a "booster" shot later on..
  3. Attenuated vaccine: This type uses a weakened form or the live disease causing organism and creates the strongest immune response. Examples of attenuated vaccines include the one for measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR). Immunity lasts a lifetime.
  4. Toxoid vaccine: The diphtheria and tetanus vaccines are examples of this type of immunization. They are made by using the toxin produced by the pathogen and then reducing its harmful affects with an aluminum salt. Toxoids require periodic booster shots.
  5. Mimics: The vaccine for deadly smallpox was created this way by using the similar, but far less virulent, cowpox. In this instance, the immune response to the similar organism is enough to provide immunity.
  6. Subunit vaccines: This recombinant DNA technology method of vaccine creation uses the genes of the pathogen that code for the parts of the organism that produce the strongest immune response. The genes are inserted into bacteria or yeast, which mass produce the desired proteins. These pathogenic but non-disease causing molecules can then be isolated, purified and used to produce the vaccine. The Hepatitis B vaccine is created this way.
ok.

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Muhammad did not get Vaccinated!!!
why do u....if you claim to follow him?
none of the prophets have been vaccinated.
None of the Prophets have used the Train, bus, cars, etc... I guess I shouldn't use them and instead use a Camel?

None of the Prophets used the Internet, so why are you using it?
All the Prophets have long hair, but is it mandatory for EVERYONE to wear their hair long?? (ppl with long hair, do not take offense, as my hair is braided half the time).

There are so many things the Prophets have NOT done, so does that mean we cannot do the things that they have not done? What they have done is the domain and range of sets that we are ONLY allowed to do? We're not allowed to do other things other than those absolutes in the set of actions they have done?

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"the hepatitis b shot has hepatitis in it, the whooping cough shot in it has the whooping cough disease or whatever in the shot, they don't have pork in it because it's not from pork that the disease or flu or whatever originates from. The swine flu originates from the flesh of the swine, that's why they put pork inside the vaccine."

how do u know it doesn't have some other
Haram ingrediant in it....and we already know
it does....because Vaccines are full
of DIRTY UNCLEAN(Haram) Viruses
1)as previously mentioned, it could contain anything
2)weaker forms of the actual virus are contained in it so that when it goes in your system, your immune system fights it and kills it so that it gets stronger... so if the stronger version of the virus actually hits you, your immune system has been trained enough to not fall in battle against it.

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this is why following modern day Arab culture
is so terrible......
this is not 'modern day Arab culture'
this is something that nearly everyone does, including europeans who are not influenced by arab culture.

Quote:
"They put the same disease in you but in a weaker form so that you get diseased and your immune system fights off the weaker form and gets stronger so that when the actual strong form of the disease hits you, your immune system is already updated to a stronger self so that the virus cannot harm you. it is only viruses that originate from the swine that have swine contaminated in them. i did not take the swine flu shot, so there should not be any swine in my blood.
as for, "how did your sect not save you from this" question,
how can a sect save me? sunni islam is just reading the quran, sakhi bukhari & muslim hadiths. we just have to live our lives by these texts. the people that are in high powers do not define sunni islam. sunni islam defines itself. whatever you start, you can have a bunch of followers, and there will be followers that will be seen as authorities in charge. but we are human and imperfect, so the authorities that are in charge could possibly not be the best candidates or maybe they were but their descendants take over and get corrupted. that is an individual aspect of those people, and an individual should not represent the whole."

its clear evidence that Sunni Islam is not gonna save
you......
there is no sect of Islam that has saved all its people entirely. How is a sect gonna save people?? Is the culture of Islam supposed to become personified into someone and save us all or something?? We can only each save ourselves.

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"i live in Canada, i went to school, and they said take the hepatitis shot back when i was in 4th grade, so i took it. how would "my sect" save me from this? the hepatitis shot doesnt even have swine in it anyway"

ahhhh finally the truth comes out

so you was vaccinated in a WESTERN COUNTRY huh?
Umm it's not like I was hiding the truth? No one ever asked me where I was from. If you look at my 'location' on under my username and stuff, it says , " 514 - MTL - 514" 514 = area code for MonTreaL, which is a city in Canada.

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LOL

bad move admitting that one....cuz guess what

YOUR PARENTS INJECTED YOU WITH HARAM VACCINES!!!!

LOL
..? How is it a bad move admitting that I am Canadian? My parents injected me with haram vaccines? No. But they were sheep and as a child I did not know better and listened to my parents who listened to the media/news/educational system which promoted vaccination. Also, my parents did not inject me with these vaccines, it was the nurses that came to our elementary and high schools that injected us with the vaccines.

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so after all this we finally get to the truth about Sham-iLL

you been denying this for days now and we finally know

thanks
If you wanted to know where I was from or at then you could have just asked, I was not denying anything.. you're welcome?

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if you would have said you grew up in a Muslim country
you might have been able to prolong your credability
here in this thread pertaining to Vaccines

but you was Vaccinated in a western country!!!!!!
My credibility should not depend on my geographical location but my knowledge regarding Biology.

Quote:
trust me...there was something Haram in those
Vaccines you recieved....
lets say some MIRACLE occured and you
didn't actually have Pork in the vaccines(which is
damn near impossible)

those Canadians still put some blood in the VAccine eh?

eh?

those Canadians still put things
in their vaccines thats
on that list eye posted above from Djehuty Maat Ra
*shrug*
Refer to my commentary above of the Djehuty Maat Ra.

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so now we got to the bottom of it

yes your Sunni sect did NOT save you
from your parents injecting you with Haram shit
Again, how is a sect supposed to save people again?

Quote:
"if you live by the book i do not see how you are heading for the hell fire. if one commits actions that are contradictory to the book then one is not sunni islamic although one may claim it."

om not retarded enough to acccuse anybody
of any school of thought of going to a hell
fire just because they choose a certain sect
of Islam.....

as eye have said repeatedly....this
is a reaction to religious tyranny

om trying to save the babies here

to restate.....if you are living right
you don't need vaccines

they are unclean, unnatural and have actually
caused more disease then they prevented
If you are a healthy person I do not think it matters what has been injected in you because your system fights off what is bad for you. It's if it is reinforced constantly with the same ol bad shit, then your system will get weakened. It's like when you punch someone repeatedly, ok, their flesh may become tougher, but if you overdose and overboard keep hitting the person to an over-extended amount, then you will be damaging them. If there were pork in the vaccines, then the people that got the vaccines probably flushed out all that negative shit in them if they had a healthy diet that did not reinforce those negative things injected to stay alive in you... for example eating pork probably will reinforce that pork injected in you to stay in your system.


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"So traditionally Muslims were semi-vegetarians. The Prophet was, I mean, technically, the Prophet (SAWS) was in that category. He was not a meat-eater. Most of his meals did not have meat in them. And the proof of that is clearly in the Muwatta-when Sayyidina Umar says, 'Beware of meat, because it has an addiction like the addiction of wine.' And the other hadith in the Muwatta-there is a chapter called 'Bab al-Laham,' the chapter of laham, the chapter of meat. Both are from Sayyidina Umar. And Umar, during his khilafa, prohibited people from eating meat two days in a row. He only allowed them to eat [it] every other day. And the khalifa has that right to do that. He did not let people eat meat every day - he saw one man eating meat every day, and he said to him, 'Every time you get hungry you go out and buy meat? Right? In other words, every time your nafs wants meat, you go out and buy it?' He said, 'Yeah, Amir al-Mumineen, ana qaram,' which in Arabic, 'qaram' means 'I love meat'-he's a carnivore, he loves meat. And Sayyidina Umar said, 'It would be better for you to roll up your tummy a little bit so that other people can eat.'"

sincere thanks for those quotes Sham iLL
You're Welcome.
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eye enjoyed that and never knew of those

"eating meat is like having an all-out dessert- it's supposed to be a once in a blue moon treat. TREAT. as in you treat yourself once in a while."

you are the first so called orthidox Muslim
eye have ever "heard" say that

"I'm sure some original Africans ate meat once in a while or else we would not have evolved to have bigger brains... Scientists have said that our brains have gotten bigger from the consumption of protein through eating meat.. Original man, african hunters with spears. They probably did not eat it all the time, but once in a while i think they did."

later in history yes...originally HELL NO!!!!

"i myself, for 4 months now, have not eaten meat. the only things that prevent me from being a full vegeterian is that i eat eggs, soy meat, fish, and i drink protein shakes (i hit the gym 5x a week so i need protein and calories, cuz im bulking up... eggs are a high source of protein.)"

thats nice to "hear"

now all you gotta do is get completely vegan
I need a source of Protein that will repair my muscles when I damage them after working-out.

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"his culture was not African because it was Islamic."

Original African culture is the highest form of Islam

"the modern day arab is the not the original arab who was a hebrew-egyptian mix, which i have proven is a pure african blood."

the original Arab was around 100's
of thousands of years before there
was such thing as a Hebrew or
an Egyptian
Ishmael is the father of the Arabs and his mother was Egyptian, Father was Hebrew... What 'original Arab' are you speaking of?

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"the modern day arab is arabs getting raped by europeans."

getting raped by or teaming up with europeans

"In Roman times, Phoenicians lived in Sicily. They were black people. Punic wars... Hannibal/Carthagenians VS the Romans. Now the Romans ultimately won, and they raped the Cartagenian Phoenicians who were black. Today, in Italy, Sicilians consider themselves different Italians than the rest of the Italians. And Usually, although Italians are white, The Sicilians have curly hair. Some Sicilians look like our modern day arabs too. See the relation? Arab (Hebrew-Egyptian) breeding with Europeans is what led to the modern day stereotyped version of Arabs, although there are a lot of Arabs with black skin that you would think they were from Africa since their hair is nappy too."

yes a few Italians today are techncially black people

"Don't you know there are Arabs with straight hair, and there are arabs with naps? I've seen Arabs with 360 waves."

om sure and that African influence genetically

but om talking more about Culture

you can look like Wesley Snipes and live
a modern day Arab culture

my problem with so called Orthidox Islam
is the promotion of the CULTURE
of the modern day Arab

it really has nothing personally to do with
genetics

"in my parents' country, Bangladesh, every house has a 'slave'. they are looked more like maids or butlers and stuff. but... they are like a second wife if you really think about it. all they do is clean the house, help the females cook the food. but it's like they are part of the family. they watch TV, they play around and stuff too. it's not the maerican version of 'slave' it aint even close to the same level of grotesque. 'slave' is a social status in the hierarchy.... elite, middle class, lower class, slave. but it's not like some chain and whip shit. it's on some i'm a slave take me in your house offer me your protection, food, shelter, etc, an i'll offer my services. that is what it is."

you are talking about an employee

nobody is in "possessesion of anyone else"

the QUran says you can have sex with
"slaves whom your right hand possesses"
No I am not talking about an employee because they do not get paid for their services.
The Qu'Ran states to take care of your slaves and feed them, give them shelter.. Which is kind of like having that person as a family member that is kind of like a 2nd wife. Remember Abraham's 2nd wife? Hagar? She was their (Abraham & Sarah's) 'maid-woman' (or slave) before she became Abraham's wife.


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which is more proof that some of what is
in the Quran is specificallly for those
savage Arabs of Muhammads time

and not for us

its proof that there is a historical context
to approach in some of these Quran verses

"he was reviving the culture of submitting one's self to The God but bringing in an update. The Prophets each brought an update or else there would only be one update and one prophet. each prophet came to reveal so that people can come back to the right path because they deviated from it. moses clearly told muhammad to ask Allah to reduce the number of prayers per day, because the Israelites weren't able to pray 50x a day. Anyways, the 5x prayer has been constructed in a way whereas it counts as equivalent to the 50x prayer the israelites had to do because the 5x prayer is complicated, complex, has a lot of restrictions, rules & regulations."

yes a easy to follow update

"it is not following a prophet less because it is a building. Adam laid the first brick, the next prophet added the next brick, etc etc etc david put on the next brick solomon put the enxt brick, so on so forth, elijah put the next brick, jesus put the next brick, and muhammaded added the next brick. each layer of brick is something new added on. we aint forgetting the old prophets, their build is with muhammad who added a new brick to the build..."

okay...thats cool...lets just NOT claim that you
gotta focus on the Muhammad block primarily
to be a Muslim

PEACE
I agree that to be a Muslim you should follow the whole Building of what the Prophets did... They laid the foundation, we gotta follow it. Their foundation is the example of how we should personify as beings that 'submit our wills to the Path of The God (Allah)'.
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"I know I might be crazy to answer you because you are totally irrelevant and it is leading nowhere but I'll do it anyway."

okay wife beater masquerading as a Muslim!!!!

whatever you say

"If you insinuate that Islam encourage slavery, you still in the wrong. Islam encourage freeing slaves. Note that slavery was a common thing through the ages and since a long time and when Islam was revealed it claimed that people are equal. Islam gave slaves rights and protection from ill treatment. Freeing slaves was the expiation for many sins, including breaking vows and accidental killings and this aims on the long term to abolish slavery amongst mankind. "

om not insinuating that at all...Muhammad said
to free the slave

just giving you examples of the Quran where
the verse MUST be taken in a historical context
(or else you gonna look ridiculous.....like you
da wife beater)

just giving you examples of how the laws laid
down to qualify one as a Muslim in the Quran
are NOT the highest levels of Islam

the verse that says basically that you can
have sex with "slaves whom your right hand
possess" is more proof that some of what is
in the Quran is specifically for them
SAVAGE Arabs whom Muhammad was
living amoungst

and eye am amoungst so called Muslims every
day...and the majority of them are Elitists

uppidy

nose up in the air like they shit don't stink

gassed up by a belief that they are superior

in particular.....Somalians, Arabs, Pakistani's
Indians

and eye think that the Quran allowing people
to have slaves encourages these
psuedo Muslims Elitistism

the highest form of Islam does not allow
slavery.....


"Of course not, I already explained this many times, check the old discussions "

yes of course not!!!!!!

just giving you examples of the Quran where
the verse MUST be taken in a historical context
(or else you gonna look ridiculous.....like you
da wife beater)

just giving you examples of how the laws laid
down to qualify one as a Muslim in the Quran
are NOT the highest levels of Islam

"What do you mean with sexual habit ?

Islam codifies any aspects of the every day life so hadiths about sexuality should be linked of course."

well....to link erotic stories with the Quran
is downright shitty and blasphemous

the Quran came straight from Allah

the Hadith did NOT

"Yes"

so once again we come back to the original point

why do you wacky sunni's insinuate that
we MUST follow(over every other prophet) the Prophet who
had 11 wives and had sex with all of them?

the answer=because you are more concerned
with promoting "Arab" culture over common sense

PEACE!!!!!!!!
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and eye had to cut and paste this quote
from da God Emblem since it seemed like
a simply easy to understand break down
of wacky sunni's

http://emblemofjustice.blogspot.com/

"Pakistan basically became an Islamic state in 1949 which gave authority to Right wing, conservative sunnis. They were more into establishing fundamental Islamic statehood than the living conditions of the people and from what I read they're more into Islamic slogans as political party lines than actual political content in action and application to benefit the Pakistani people. Basically Pakistan sells political pussy to the U.S. and hates the fact that it does so. Pakistan is like a side piece of pussy for the U.S., she's throwing pussy outta both legs to both the U.S and Israel. Pakistan is a quasi-Islamic, schizophrenic political mistress who hates the fact that she has to fuck a fat, balding pig like the U.S. and all she get's paid for turning an annual trick is a billion and a half dollars a year. The bitch got issues."
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Old 05-29-2010, 12:10 PM   #74
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"Not sure how many times i have been vaccinated, i think myabe 6 or 7 times?
I received them in Canada."

mmmhmmmm....so yes...om not saying your
parents are bad people....but they did
allow you to be injected with SOMETHING
that is Haram....which like eye said repeatedly,
makes me wonder of the authenticity
of the modern day so called sunni Muslim
and their claims to be the "chosen sect of Islam"

LOL

"Most people do not know, because the pharmaceutical companies that produce vaccine serums will never let the public know...
So how is this person gonna know what's in the vaccine if the pharmaceutical companies won't let the public know?"

then why inject it into your babies?

"I guess we can never really 'know' anything then. How do we know that there isn't swine genetics engineered into seeds of every fruits and vegetables and other plants in the world, and now no pure plant is left because they got eaten off, rotted, or wtv, but became extinct, and now all that's left is the impure genetically modified plants left on the planet?"

eye eat organic produce so eye don't have that problem

"i guess we will never know what was in them, but it could potentially be anything and everything."

ummm....eye know theres fruit and veggies
inside my fruits and veggies

"vaccines contain weaker forms of the viruses so your antigens/antibodies can fight off the disease. you have to get sick in your life to battle the sickness, but if a sickness is stronger than your immune system, then you will die. now i'm not promoting the idea of vaccination, but i am skeptical about this whole what is inside the vaccines. i was vaccinated when i was young, now i'm older, i don't get vaccinated anymore, and I only really get "sick" one a year... I get spring fever and have it for 3 days and it goes away. "

viruses are dirty......it just seems really
anti-Islam to purposefully put something
DIRTY in your body

when really if you live an original
African culture(Original Islam)
you will have no need to ever
go to a doctor

"Filthiness can be washed or cleansed."

it can be washed if its on the OUTSIDE
of your body.....

inside is another story!!!!!

next time you go to your Muslim church
before you go into prayer
tell your Imam you rubbed Vaccine juice
all over your body...

and cee if he lets you in the prayer room!!!!

Viruses are dirty no matter how you look at it

germs, toxic bacterium!!!!!

"none of the prophets have been vaccinated.
None of the Prophets have used the Train, bus, cars, etc... I guess I shouldn't use them and instead use a Camel?"

this is the very defineation of a STRAWMAN TACTIC

the Quran or any other Islam scripture does
not put restrictions on HOW you TRAVEL

you can even travel on a flying horse like Muhammad did

but the Quran and any other Islam scripture
DOES....EMPHATICALLY.....forbid putting unclean
dirty shit in your body

"None of the Prophets used the Internet, so why are you using it?
All the Prophets have long hair, but is it mandatory for EVERYONE to wear their hair long?? (ppl with long hair, do not take offense, as my hair is braided half the time)."

where in the Quran or Islam scripture does it forbid
internet or long hair?

"There are so many things the Prophets have NOT done, so does that mean we cannot do the things that they have not done? What they have done is the domain and range of sets that we are ONLY allowed to do? We're not allowed to do other things other than those absolutes in the set of actions they have done?"

you bring up examples of things Islam scripture
never even touched on

Islam scripture says don't put unclean shit in your body

Muhammmad didn't get vaccinated

so why do you?

"1)as previously mentioned, it could contain anything
2)weaker forms of the actual virus are contained in it so that when it goes in your system, your immune system fights it and kills it so that it gets stronger... so if the stronger version of the virus actually hits you, your immune system has been trained enough to not fall in battle against it."

yes thats His...story

"this is not 'modern day Arab culture'
this is something that nearly everyone does, including europeans who are not influenced by arab culture."

modern day Arab culture is very close to european culture
just a tad bit less wicked

"there is no sect of Islam that has saved all its people entirely. How is a sect gonna save people?? Is the culture of Islam supposed to become personified into someone and save us all or something?? We can only each save ourselves. "

EXACTLY my point!!!!!! thank you!!!!!!!

but your more likely to reach the
original untainted form of Islam through
da 5 percent rather than another sect

and alot of that has to do with the
corruption of Sunni Islam

"Umm it's not like I was hiding the truth? No one ever asked me where I was from. If you look at my 'location' on under my username and stuff, it says , " 514 - MTL - 514" 514 = area code for MonTreaL, which is a city in Canada."

ok

"..? How is it a bad move admitting that I am Canadian? My parents injected me with haram vaccines? No. But they were sheep and as a child I did not know better and listened to my parents who listened to the media/news/educational system which promoted vaccination. Also, my parents did not inject me with these vaccines, it was the nurses that came to our elementary and high schools that injected us with the vaccines."

it was a bad move if you trying to prove
that you was never injected with
something Haram or Unclean

your parents didn't have to vaccinate you

even here in the USA if you know the law
you can avoid getting vaccinated

its like....eye will more than likely never
go to Mecca....and the fact you gotta
inject poison into yourself just to go
there......just shows what sect is
headed for the HELL FIRE

it wasn't a bad move on your part
in the sense that you told the truth

"My credibility should not depend on my geographical location but my knowledge regarding Biology."

your geographical location shows that you
was injected with something haram

"Again, how is a sect supposed to save people again?"

ask your sunni brethren.....eye have no clue why
they promote such ideas!!!

"If you are a healthy person I do not think it matters what has been injected in you because your system fights off what is bad for you. It's if it is reinforced constantly with the same ol bad shit, then your system will get weakened. It's like when you punch someone repeatedly, ok, their flesh may become tougher, but if you overdose and overboard keep hitting the person to an over-extended amount, then you will be damaging them. If there were pork in the vaccines, then the people that got the vaccines probably flushed out all that negative shit in them if they had a healthy diet that did not reinforce those negative things injected to stay alive in you... for example eating pork probably will reinforce that pork injected in you to stay in your system."

umm.....AIDS was started in Africa through white
mans vaccines laced with green monkey brains

ok?

this shit is no fuckin joke

"I need a source of Protein that will repair my muscles when I damage them after working-out."

every food has protien...and animal based
protien has side effects....it weakens the
immune system and causes stagnant
conditions in the body

"Ishmael is the father of the Arabs and his mother was Egyptian, Father was Hebrew... What 'original Arab' are you speaking of?"

Ishmael is decended from the ADAM
from the bloodline of the prophets

and this ADAM was born 4000bc

at 4000bc African civilization was in full swing

the original Arab is waaaaaaaaaay before
4000bc or even 50,000 years ago(start
of African civilization)

perhaps trillions of years

"No I am not talking about an employee because they do not get paid for their services."

they don't get paid????

Whut the fuck? Thats terrible

if one was really trying to free a slave
they would pay them

"The Qu'Ran states to take care of your slaves and feed them, give them shelter.. Which is kind of like having that person as a family member that is kind of like a 2nd wife. Remember Abraham's 2nd wife? Hagar? She was their (Abraham & Sarah's) 'maid-woman' (or slave) before she became Abraham's wife."

the highest form of Islam is not found in any book

and Maid Women get PAID for their services

PEACE!!!!!!!
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