Truth: Paganism is the answer

[prof zooruka]

When God Almighty says you shall have no other gods before me, he doesn`t mean there are other gods besides himself and he is in a competition for worship with them... There is no other God besides the God of israel, so when he says you shall have no other gods besides me, he mean`s that man should not take anything or any teaching or practice besides the one he gives, and worship it as god in his place...the bible even says that back in the day, pagans who thought they where worshipping god where actually sacrificing there sons and daughters to demons.

1 cor 10:20 - "No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.


secondly....


When God says you should not make any graven images, it`s because he doesn`t want anything to be used to represent him, unless he gives it, (which he did when he sent jesus who is God in the flesh) so in saying this, he is condeming any kind of worship which involves any sort of imagery that man has thought up as wicked and not worship of him at all, but is really worship of some demonic entity which is behind the idea of the imagery...eg.. the golden calf, statues ect....



peace be with you !

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

Originally Posted by prof zooruka

When God Almighty says you shall have no other gods before me, he doesn`t mean there are other gods besides himself and he is in a competition for worship with them... There is no other God besides the God of israel, so when he says that he mean`s that man should not take anything for god in his place...the bible even says that back in the day, pagans who thought they where worshipping god where actually sacrificing there sons and daughters to demons.

1 cor 10:20 - "No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.


secondly....


When God says you should not make any graven images, it`s because he doesn`t want anything to be used to represent him, unless he gives it, (which he did when he sent jesus who is God in the flesh) so in saying this, he is condeming any kind of worship which involves any sort of imagery that man has thought up as wicked and not worship of him at all but some demonic entity which is behind the idea of the imagery...eg.. the golden calf, statues ect....



peace be with you !

As told to you by... a writing called "The Book"? Some author that was.

You are just saying what people told you though. What it says is pretty obvious. What you're saying is the excuse for it. But it's not the whole truth.

Do you even know what Daimon means? It means spirit. It's from the same word as Deity. It means a lesser God or the spirit of a demigod after death. Emphasis on God... By the true definition, Jesus after resurrection was a Demon. THATS WHAT A DEMON IS. So when you pray to Jesus you're praying to a Demon. Which is fine. But recognize.

All El is saying is that we should only sacrifice to him. Why? Because that's what gets the Gods off. They may eat ambrosia and drink nectar, but they still crave sacrifice and El is nothing special among the Elohim.

[prof zooruka]

Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

Jesus after resurrection was a Demon. THATS WHAT A DEMON IS. So when you pray to Jesus you're praying to a Demon. Which is fine. But recognize.

lol

Jesus is no demon...he is God almighty in the flesh....always has and always will be.


Also


The reason God uses the word gods is not because these entities or idols are some what gods, it`s because man has been corrupted and has the ability to make anything into god...whether that be there favorite celebrity, money, any other idea of God, other than the God of christianity and judaism, the golden calf, basically anything man can possible imagine and bow down and worship can become god to them... This is what God condemns.


That`s why he says gods.


peace be with you !

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

Originally Posted by prof zooruka

lol

Jesus is no demon...he is God almighty in the flesh....always has and always will be.


Also


The reason God uses the word gods is not because these entities or idols are some what gods, it`s because man has been corrupted and has the ability to make anything into god...whether that be there favorite celebrity, money, any other idea of God, other than the God of christianity and judaism, the golden calf, basically anything man can possible imagine and bow down and worship... This is what god condemns.


That`s why he says gods.


peace be with you !

No he says Gods because the Hebrews (ie the people the book was addressing) lived in a time when people worshipped multiple Gods. So he speaks with the Authority of all the Gods. He is Elohim. He created man in "Our own image." God is plural and not because of the Trinity.

The "Trinity" is just a corruption of a billion different pagan trinities that can mean whatever you want. 3 is a magic number. The God, The Virgin, and The Son. That's your trinity. Or is it Father, Son, and a "Holy Spirit". Or is it Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades, or is it Odin, Vi, Villi the three Kings of Kings? Artemis, Athena and Hestia the three virgins? Hephaestus, Apollo, and Ares or Thor, Balder, and Tyr the three Sons? Odin, Frey, and Tyr? The Three Lords? The 3 Fates? The 3 witches? The 3 Wise Men? The 3 Blind Mice? 3x3 is 9, the holiest number of the Norse. But 3x3 is just 3 trinities of 3 gods is it not?

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

I don't think war is the problem. It's about individualism. If I'm mad and you're mad we should be able to fight, be it to the death, first blood, or until one of us says no thank you. So I don't think police or soldiers telling us what we can and can't do make sense. Our warriors should be everyone. We're humans, when we aren't fighting each other we're doing things that hurt the earth.

The problem is we have this degree of imaginary civility, but we won't ever eliminate the barbarian qualities. We can live in nice houses with fancy cars and have our computers and girls with fake tits, and everything can seem so well, but back a man into a wall and he'll gouge your eyes out. It's living a lie. We're barbarians. It's not our technology that makes us human, it our values and our virtues. Our codes of conduct, our legends, the flesh and blood of our cultures.

That's our freedom. But we've become so enamored with civilization when civility should be about respect, courage, and generosity not about cars and planes and broadband tv.

[Killbot]

Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

I don't think war is the problem. It's about individualism. If I'm mad and you're mad we should be able to fight, be it to the death, first blood, or until one of us says no thank you. So I don't think police or soldiers telling us what we can and can't do make sense. Our warriors should be everyone. We're humans, when we aren't fighting each other we're doing things that hurt the earth.

The problem is we have this degree of imaginary civility, but we won't ever eliminate the barbarian qualities. We can live in nice houses with fancy cars and have our computers and girls with fake tits, and everything can seem so well, but back a man into a wall and he'll gouge your eyes out. It's living a lie. We're barbarians. It's not our technology that makes us human, it our values and our virtues. Our codes of conduct, our legends, the flesh and blood of our cultures.

That's our freedom. But we've become so enamored with civilization when civility should be about respect, courage, and generosity not about cars and planes and broadband tv.

i agree but no matter what happens there WILL be major problems but i see what yoour trying to say...but believe it or not and as much as i hatee to say it..no police would turn our country to fucking africa

[Face of the Golden Falcon]

...your god's a bit of an attention whore, hey Zook?

HETEPU

[prof zooruka]

Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon

...your god's a bit of an attention whore, hey Zook?

HETEPU

No he`s not.


You need to think about it like this, imagine you have a wife, you love her with all your heart, yet any man who comes along, the wife you love goes and flirts and sleeps with him, even while you are present....would you not be jealous, and angry ?????

This is the anger that God feels when we take other things for God over him.


That is the reason God says those thing and says he is a jealous God, it`s not attention seeking, it`s because he is the only God and he alone is the only one who loves us, and wants us to be faithful to him, like a husband wants his wife to be faithful.


peace be with you !

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

Originally Posted by prof zooruka

No he`s not.


You need to think about it like this, imagine you have a wife, you love her with all your heart, yet any man who comes along, the wife you love goes and flirts and sleeps with him, even while you are present....would you not be jealous, and angry ?????

This is the anger that God feels when we take other things for God over him.


That is the reason God says those thing and says he is a jealous God, it`s not attention seeking, it`s because he is the only God and he alone is the only one who loves us, and wants us to be faithful to him, like a husband wants his wife to be faithful.


peace be with you !

No, I'd be a little bummed out, then I'd ask her if she still wanted me or the other guy, or if she wanted a looser relationship... I'm not going to explode because the flock strays from the shepherd. While I'd like my wife to be faithful I wouldn't tell her to be, I'd hope she is and assume that's enough. I'm not going to threaten her.

Your example doesn't even fit. What your example should be is "If your wife was cheating on you with an imaginary boyfriend would that make you threaten to kill her if she doesn't knock it off?"

[Killbot]

Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

No, I'd be a little bummed out, then I'd ask her if she still wanted me or the other guy, or if she wanted a looser relationship... I'm not going to explode because the flock strays from the shepherd. While I'd like my wife to be faithful I wouldn't tell her to be, I'd hope she is and assume that's enough. I'm not going to threaten her.

Your example doesn't even fit. What your example should be is "If your wife was cheating on you with an imaginary boyfriend would that make you threaten to kill her if she doesn't knock it off?"

exactly what i waas thinking he just disproved himself lol

[prof zooruka]

Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

I'm not going to explode because the flock strays from the shepherd.

God did not explode either...we as humans forsaked him, for which we deserved to be eternally punished and condemed to hell, and even though he repeatedly warned us that our actions where wrong, he still did not condem us to hell, but still remained faithful to us and through the death of his son Jesus Christ, gave us a way to avoid that punishment and at the same time he reconciled us back to himself...if that is not true love I don`t know what is....I don`t know many people who after someone has dishonored them, would still go to such extrodinary lengths to help the person who did the dishonoring...but yet that is exactly what God did.

Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

While I'd like my wife to be faithful I wouldn't tell her to be, I'd hope she is and assume that's enough. I'm not going to threaten her.

So you are telling me you would not demand of your wife that she honor you and your marriage and remain faithful ... ??????? but just hope she would ???? Man I don`t know what to say to that ?????

As far as threatening her, God did not threaten us, but rather gave us fair warning about what not to do...and that was for our benefit not his, God don`t need us, we need him...and like I said, even after we messed up he still bailed us out of the mess that we got ourselves into....Thats our God ...pure love till the end.


All PRAISES TO GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST.



peace be with you !

[Mumm Ra]

Originally Posted by prof zooruka

No he`s not.


You need to think about it like this, imagine you have a wife, you love her with all your heart, yet any man who comes along, the wife you love goes and flirts and sleeps with him, even while you are present....would you not be jealous, and angry ?????

not ideally - id leave her and move on with the knowledge that she wasn't for me
and btw
love = giving while seeking nothing in return (you will find love expressed in nature through this definition also)
any other definition is a fleeting one
desire does not = love
you are suppose to love your neighbor - does that mean have feelings for him that you would for a spouse? obviously not
also by that definition - your god does not love his creation if he is jealous and/ or seeks worship from us

This is the anger that God feels when we take other things for God over him.

god has anger towards his beloved?

I don`t know many people who after someone has dishonored them, would still go to such extrodinary lengths to help the person who did the dishonoring...but yet that is exactly what God did.

isn't this what every christian is called to do??
what's that saying about knowing a tree by the fruit it bears again?

So you are telling me you would not demand of your wife that she honor you and your marriage and remain faithful ... ??????? but just hope she would ???? Man I don`t know what to say to that ?????

if you have to DEMAND something like that - there is no love there
there is no mutual understanding
there is no trust

would you expect the woman to demand that you be faithful to her? or is that only the woman's job to be faithful?

if there is love, trust, knowledge and understanding in the relationship - which there SHOULD be in order to marry someone -
you will not be relying on HOPE
you will be relying on what you KNOW
when there is a lack of love, trust, knowledge and understanding -
that's when you get BELIEFs in god, and FAITH in what you don't know, DOUBTS, and HOPE

you believe in god right? to believe in something is to admit you don't know, and i know damn well you've never met god or jesus
so in other words you HOPE what you believe is right, right? and you think hope is ridiculous, right?
hmmmmmmmmmm

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

Originally Posted by prof zooruka

God did not explode either...we as humans forsaked him, for which we deserved to be eternally punished and condemed to hell, and even though he repeatedly warned us that our actions where wrong, he still did not condem us to hell, but still remained faithful to us and through the death of his son Jesus Christ, gave us a way to avoid that punishment and at the same time he reconciled us back to himself...if that is not true love I don`t know what is....I don`t know many people who after someone has dishonored them, would still go to such extrodinary lengths to help the person who did the dishonoring...but yet that is exactly what God did.

Why do we deserve to be punished? I'm not doubting that he can punish us in a karmic sense, emphasis on can. He is powerful, I'm not doubting that there is a supernatural sentience that people call God. But he isn't really "Loving." My Guess? The Trinity is Cronus, Zeus, and Uranus. The Almighty Father (who ruled over heaven, earth, and seas), the Loving Son (guy fucked so many women), and the Heavenly Spirit that sired the line of Gods. All elements of "The One" but each with a unique persona as human as any man. That's what The Singularity is. An amalgamation of every spirit in the universe. The One is unknowable because it is too vast. Cronus, your God is a fragment of that, albeit perhaps the greatest fragment of personality.

So you are telling me you would not demand of your wife that she honor you and your marriage and remain faithful ... ??????? but just hope she would ???? Man I don`t know what to say to that ?????

As far as threatening her, God did not threaten us, but rather gave us fair warning about what not to do...and that was for our benefit not his, God don`t need us, we need him...and like I said, even after we messed up he still bailed us out of the mess that we got ourselves into....Thats our God ...pure love till the end.

All PRAISES TO GOD ALMIGHTY AND HIS SON JESUS CHRIST.

peace be with you !

No, because love requires trust. I would trust that my wife wouldn't feel the need to stray, but while I'd also hope I don't feel the need to stray I accept the possibility remains for anyone. There's more to love then sex and marriage. I don't ask obedience from a partner. I would ask obedience from a child, but when they become an adult then I treat them as an equal, albeit one with less experience and success.

Biblical God specifically sets up a system where we are guaranteed to "sin", then sets up a wholly inappropriate punishment for it. Eternal Damnation? For breaking the 400+ commandments (yes, there are hundreds)? That makes sense. While the Greeks do have Tartarus, it's for a select few super dicks who managed to personally betray the Gods. Like those who personally try to screw over the Gods. Not by ignoring them, but by acknowledging them, then personally trying to fuck them over. Like Sisyphus, who was probably one of the worst people period, and he's only expected to roll a boulder up hill for eternity. Is it fun? No, it's extremely depressing because you can't succeed. But it's not having your skin lit on fire and your organs torn out and played with by perverted fucking demons.

The pagan gods at worst want you to be depressed forever. Unless you try to bang Hera. Then you get it for real and you get chained to a burning wheel for ever. But that's pretty extreme. Zeus is a dick sometimes. But you deserve it when he does something permanent. He's reasonable. Being burned requires betraying the hospitality of God and trying to rape his wife. That's pretty extreme.

And if the Gods didn't need us they wouldn't keep us around. We serve a purpose in the machine. We aren't just nothings. We're relevant to the order of things.

[TheBoarzHeadBoy]

Other then the aids and the warlords, Africa's not a bad place. But those warlords are the police over here so it's all the same. Its not that I'm paranoid and afraid of the police doing shit, but it's the idea. Like realistically, I shouldn't have to pull over for the president because of a blue light, let alone some jackass who just passed the exam.

Our founders gave us the second amendment which assured us our arms, but the government wants to take the away in the name of order. But the thing is I'm less scared of getting shot if everyone had a gun then if the only people with guns were the police. Thomas Jefferson specifically mentions this stuff in one of his books. He quotes an Italian social philosopher who says that taking arms from the people only helps criminals who would find a way to get them anyway. Thomas Jefferson also advocated the threat of a revolution every so often to keep your officials in line. Jefferson was pretty much cultured anarchist who compromised his freedoms for the realities of a government albeit a weak one that should be more afraid of it's people then the other way around.

It's as if Freedom from tyranny doesn't matter anymore. I guess I'm a bit of an Anarchist, but still. It seems like no one cares about anything that matters. I'd say anymore, but I don't know if people ever did. All I want is a place to live that people can't just take away, food to eat, something to sip on, and like minded people to surround myself with. Basic Life Liberty Pursuit of Happiness stuff.

Look in the ghetto communities. The no snitching thing (I don't just mean the rule through fear gang aspect). That's not saying that people won't be punished for misdeeds, it's that we'll deal with our own, stay out of it. The reason the gangster image is so desirable, is because it's so primal and while I think it's a perversion of the real tribal culture we hunger for it's still something. Men are trying to reconnect with their warrior image. At least in a mental sense. Like if you got beef with someone, you should deal with it like a man. If you're mad because someone screwed you, you don't call the police, you call him out and you confront him. If he wants to fight you mano et mano then that's fine. If he wants his guys vs your guys that's fine too. But that's the warrior spirit that burns in the hearts of men. You look at relationships, and these rich guys have a number of girls at once? Why because in the old days important people had numerous wives, concubines, and mistresses.

Nothing changes. Its just that civilization has put a veneer over everything.

[Killbot]

Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy

Other then the aids and the warlords, Africa's not a bad place. But those warlords are the police over here so it's all the same. Its not that I'm paranoid and afraid of the police doing shit, but it's the idea. Like realistically, I shouldn't have to pull over for the president because of a blue light, let alone some jackass who just passed the exam.

Our founders gave us the second amendment which assured us our arms, but the government wants to take the away in the name of order. But the thing is I'm less scared of getting shot if everyone had a gun then if the only people with guns were the police. Thomas Jefferson specifically mentions this stuff in one of his books. He quotes an Italian social philosopher who says that taking arms from the people only helps criminals who would find a way to get them anyway. Thomas Jefferson also advocated the threat of a revolution every so often to keep your officials in line. Jefferson was pretty much cultured anarchist who compromised his freedoms for the realities of a government albeit a weak one that should be more afraid of it's people then the other way around.

It's as if Freedom from tyranny doesn't matter anymore. I guess I'm a bit of an Anarchist, but still. It seems like no one cares about anything that matters. I'd say anymore, but I don't know if people ever did. All I want is a place to live that people can't just take away, food to eat, something to sip on, and like minded people to surround myself with. Basic Life Liberty Pursuit of Happiness stuff.

yea i know what yoou mean and i agree with every single thing you posted...it's becausee people want it to happen but they don't want to be the first to do it know what i mean? theey're aafraid no1 will follow and they'll get killd or arrested or there jst plain lazy...im all for an all out riot i need some new sshorts nd im broke lmfh