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    Quote Originally Posted by TSA View Post
    Biden can't win, though if Bernie gets the nomination the corporations will back Trump and the democratic party establishment will try to deliberately lose. Harris is the only person in the world less electable than Biden. Warren is the real threat. She has the Bernie rhetoric with the Biden corporate support and unlike Bernie, she's willing to sustain the stat quo. I think, with time, she'll be exposed and they'll be left with Bernie. Yang is a bigger threat than he's being given credit for but he, clearly, won't win.

    Trump will lose against anybody except Biden and Harris. His rallies are very empty, his base isn't fired up and the most radical/racist among them are tired of him. He's trying to move the topic off the Dem Primaries and on to immigration again so that his base forgets that he didn't deliver what he promised, but the facts are the facts.

    I think the dems are making a big mistake thinking Biden is electable. He and Harris are the least electable ppl. Everyone is tired of the lying democrat establishment like you said and they represent that. They'll stay home in larger numbers than they did with Hilary because at least Hilary was competent.

    But the anti-immigration effort is bigger than Trump or the republicans and the democrats will continue it unless (hopefully) it's a far left candidate like Bernie, or even Williamson (who has no chance).
    The way that I see this, Biden is the obvious candidate. He's not talking a bunch of nonsense like the other candidates are. Think about it. Everyone else is running good game on the American people. Healthcare for all, free college, reparations for slavery, all immigrants (they're referring to Hispanics) will be granted cash and protection, and a gun free country. TSA, these are unrealistic ideas that only a fool would believe. It's nothing more than a wet dream for the Dems so they can have control again. This will not happen and God forbid if it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    First of all, I am not a "nigga." You're an unkle tom bitch if you refer to your fellow black people, or white people, as "niggas." You have that plantation mentality. The white elitists in charge of the DemoKKKrat party love it when black people degrade each other, kill each other, kill their own babies, sell each other drugs, etc. Remember the Wu Tang documentary when Rza said where they grew up felt like a prison? It was. The police don't police your neighborhoods, they just surround them. You get your little ghetto territory to drug each other, kill each other, and call each other "niggas." You're kept like a negro slave. Kept in your urban section 8 plantation. Kept on welfare. Second of all, wiff isn't a word. You actually have to use your fake ebonics on an internet forum and expect to be taken seriously?

    Settlement, civilization, and development of land by white people makes the land just as much their land as African tribes murdering each other for partials of land in Africa makes it black people's land. If white people have no claim to their land that they settled developed and built the most thriving civilization in human history on, then neither do blacks have any claim to any land in Africa or anywhere else. Why is it wrong for white people to have land but black people think an entire continent belongs to them? Unlike blacks in Africa who steal property from white people, murder them, rape them, and slaughter them only to cause mass famine and starvation because they don't even know how to manage large scale agriculture (Zimbabwe, South Africa, etc.), white people in America have transferred trillions of dollars in wealth to non-white minorities and have established individual rights that protect individuals of all race and creed. Non-whites in America have equal rights, including equal property rights. Go buy some land. Or fight a war and try to conquer some land.

    Any other attempts at rebuttals?

    Would you like to play the "indigenous peoples" argument?
    What's your issue with blacks? You're always using them as an example and you're always talking down to them.

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    Who're the idiots, Sha?
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    Did shadynasty get offended about something? Take a breather champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    First of all, I am not a "nigga." You're an unkle tom bitch if you refer to your fellow black people, or white people, as "niggas."
    Nigga please, me and my niggas don't care how you feel about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    You have that plantation mentality.
    white niggas turned the whole globe into a plantation because they are weak. They had to lie steal and murder their way to supremacy. Their power is not real and the mask is dissolving.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    The white elitists in charge of the DemoKKKrat party love it when black people degrade each other, kill each other, kill their own babies, sell each other drugs, etc.
    i don't give a fuck about what kind of party loves what - why are you telling me all of this shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    Remember the Wu Tang documentary when Rza said where they grew up felt like a prison?
    No - No i don't remember when Rza said where they grew up felt like a prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    It was. The police don't police your neighborhoods, they just surround them. You get your little ghetto territory to drug each other, kill each other, and call each other "niggas." You're kept like a negro slave. Kept in your urban section 8 plantation. Kept on welfare.
    what kind of rush are you getting from typin all of this shit in response to my little 5 to 6 word post ?
    do you have a stamp collection ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    Second of all, wiff isn't a word.
    yes it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    You actually have to use your fake ebonics on an internet forum and expect to be taken seriously?
    why would i give a fuck whether or not i'm taken seriously here ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    Settlement, civilization, and development of land by white people makes the land just as much their land as African tribes murdering each other for partials of land in Africa makes it black people's land.
    So how you see it, white people civilize and settle on land they develop and Africans murder each other for small parts of land.
    So in your mind, whites = civilized and Africans = uncivilized
    Thank you for telling us that shit.




    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    If white people have no claim to their land that they settled developed and built the most thriving civilization in human history on, then neither do blacks have any claim to any land in Africa or anywhere else.
    nigga....what kind of dinosaur are you ?



    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    Why is it wrong for white people to have land but black people think an entire continent belongs to them?
    nigga....what the fuck are you talking about ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    Unlike blacks in Africa who steal property from white people, murder them, rape them, and slaughter them only to cause mass famine and starvation because they don't even know how to manage large scale agriculture (Zimbabwe, South Africa, etc.),
    which white power organization do you belong to ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    white people in America have transferred trillions of dollars in wealth to non-white minorities and have established individual rights that protect individuals of all race and creed. Non-whites in America have equal rights, including equal property rights. Go buy some land. Or fight a war and try to conquer some land.
    Is archie bunker your sensei ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sense-A View Post
    Any other attempts at rebuttals?

    Would you like to play the "indigenous peoples" argument?
    NO !
    i would not like to play with you
    you are a white supremacist
    Last edited by LORD NOSE; 09-19-2019 at 12:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    The way that I see this, Biden is the obvious candidate. He's not talking a bunch of nonsense like the other candidates are. Think about it. Everyone else is running good game on the American people. Healthcare for all, free college, reparations for slavery, all immigrants (they're referring to Hispanics) will be granted cash and protection, and a gun free country. TSA, these are unrealistic ideas that only a fool would believe. It's nothing more than a wet dream for the Dems so they can have control again. This will not happen and God forbid if it does.



    What's your issue with blacks? You're always using them as an example and you're always talking down to them.



    Who're the idiots, Sha?
    I think the discussion is passed the 'we can afford this' discussion. If we need to go fight in a foreign country of billionaires need tax cuts there always infinite money. When it's time to talk about healthcare and education, suddenly we're frugal. I don't think any candidate is advocating cash and protection for immigrants. I think we have grow up with a government that tells use actually doing it's job is a pipe dream, mounting billion dollar bases all over the world, and fighting is 7 countries at once for no foreseeable reason is a normal and affordable part of life. Since Reagan, arguably Carter the narrative has been that nothing domestic is affordable if it's not tied to the military or corporate benefits.

    Medicaid for all is very doable, as are free state colleges. Reparations is doable as well depending on how it looks and especially if it's tied to land ownership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSA View Post
    I think the discussion is passed the 'we can afford this' discussion. If we need to go fight in a foreign country of billionaires need tax cuts there always infinite money. When it's time to talk about healthcare and education, suddenly we're frugal. I don't think any candidate is advocating cash and protection for immigrants. I think we have grow up with a government that tells use actually doing it's job is a pipe dream, mounting billion dollar bases all over the world, and fighting is 7 countries at once for no foreseeable reason is a normal and affordable part of life. Since Reagan, arguably Carter the narrative has been that nothing domestic is affordable if it's not tied to the military or corporate benefits.

    Medicaid for all is very doable, as are free state colleges. Reparations is doable as well depending on how it looks and especially if it's tied to land ownership.
    There are over 320 million people in the US and the government is already spending most of it's money on healthcare (military being second). If Healthcare for all comes to fruition and private healthcare is banned, then we'll have a health crisis on our hands.

    Free college? Only certain universities will participate and it'll be extremely competitive (GPA, test scores, etc.) College is getting crazy expensive so this maybe a good thing. Who knows? If it's STEM, it'll be a big problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    There are over 320 million people in the US and the government is already spending most of it's money on healthcare (military being second). If Healthcare for all comes to fruition and private healthcare is banned, then we'll have a health crisis on our hands.

    Free college? Only certain universities will participate and it'll be extremely competitive (GPA, test scores, etc.) College is getting crazy expensive so this maybe a good thing. Who knows? If it's STEM, it'll be a big problem.

    Health care and College in america for americans is not the answer. Everything here is a scam and there are no wins in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD NOSE View Post
    Health care and College in america for americans is not the answer. Everything here is a scam and there are no wins in it.
    I disagree
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    I disagree
    Maybe because you don't see yourself as a domesticated negro american

    We don't need health care, we need real food
    We don't need money for cancer research, we need these idiots to stop blowing cigarette smoke in babies faces while out in public places.
    This is an inferior system ran by inferior people who mame the minds of the population. They do this so that the population can see them as Gods that they must submit to.

    Perhaps you cannot fathom being a part of a better world that will not tolerate white supremacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel411 View Post
    Good god. Blows my fucking mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LORD NOSE View Post
    Maybe because you don't see yourself as a domesticated negro american

    We don't need health care, we need real food
    We don't need money for cancer research, we need these idiots to stop blowing cigarette smoke in babies faces while out in public places.
    This is an inferior system ran by inferior people who mame the minds of the population. They do this so that the population can see them as Gods that they must submit to.

    Perhaps you cannot fathom being a part of a better world that will not tolerate white supremacy.
    A domesticated negro? The hell is that?

    Sunny, we need health care and food. We need the highest quality of service. Nothing more, nothing less. I understand your frustration with the American politicians, I do. The quality of the Dem candidates is low. Their only hope is Joe Biden, someone who has an understanding of how things work.

    We need opportunities, not free stuff and programs. Provide these services to the people who truly need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    I understand your frustration with the American politicians, I do.

    I'm not frustrated with american politicians.


    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    The quality of the Dem candidates is low. Their only hope is Joe Biden, someone who has an understanding of how things work.
    No one they put in office and nothing they do will make things right here.

    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    We need opportunities, not free stuff and programs. Provide these services to the people who truly need it.
    We/I do not need this place or any one representing this place to give me anything but the joy of seeing them getting out of my fukin face.

    What people really need is a natural earth to live on - corporate america will never provide the people with that.

    Again....fuck their institutions. Everything about this place is a scam. There are no wins here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrOnMaN View Post
    There are over 320 million people in the US and the government is already spending most of it's money on healthcare (military being second). If Healthcare for all comes to fruition and private healthcare is banned, then we'll have a health crisis on our hands.

    Free college? Only certain universities will participate and it'll be extremely competitive (GPA, test scores, etc.) College is getting crazy expensive so this maybe a good thing. Who knows? If it's STEM, it'll be a big problem.
    It's spending that much because it's a purely private model, not in-spite of it. If you make a medicine, you have the patent to the formula meaning nobody else can make that same medicine unless the licence with you. Which means you can pick whatever price you want. So you get a situation where procedures in the US cost 10-30x more than they do in most of Europe (nearly equal in population). Hospitals can also charge whatever they want on top of that. We spend the most and deliver the least amount of healthcare of any developed country. Because people aren't insured in this country they also don't go to the hospital until it's nearly too late. Big difference between people getting early tumors removed in a procedure that costs $400 and 4 rounds of chemo and getting helicoptered out to a specialist hospital, for not knowing it's there since you work at wal-mart or run a small business 15 years later.

    People with insurance (which is only the graduate-professional class, not even all workers or the majority) can get check ups regularly. Everyone else has to use ubers as ambulances and leaving the hospital with gouged and inflated $60,000 bills they'll never pay.

    We have to have price controls with healthcare. Here in Houston, if there's a flood and you're caught price gouging water you can be arrested for public endangerment. But if you price gouge HIV medicine or insulin, no problem nationwide. Not everything can run of a private model or a purely private model. Healthcare isn't a nice car or vacation house that people should get for being well employed and college educated.


    And yeah only public universities should be free. You pay state taxes to create and keep a university alive in your state. You pay for everything there with your taxes. Then you go there, or send your kids there and they charge you $60k lol. Then they run a multibillion dollar sports program and still charge your ass $60k while also not paying the players and having the head coach be the highest paid man in the state.


    Like LORD NOSE said, everything is this country is a scam. Most people have been convinced that the government 'cant afford' to be a government which frees up budget space for foreign wars and allows billionaires and multimillionaires wiggle room to stay untaxed. The idea that we can't afford to get everyone who needs it on medicaid, or that we shouldn't charge people to go to a school they pay for their entire lives is expensive and unrealistic. Mut we can afford to drop 30,000 half a million dollar bombs every year, or give rich people a 2 trillion dollar rebate on being rich. The American public has to stop being a sucker lol. But we're the ones that keep pretending that the government can't afford to actually do anything useful.

    If you're a US citizen you should be able to go to a US hospital. Right now our employer's HR policy literally determines life and death for ourselves and our kids lol.
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    Worst the companies don't even develop the medicines. The government provides nearly all medical breakthroughs and research in the country with your money. Then someone in Latvia gets the contract to manufacture it and charges you 15x what is charged anywhere else in the world even though the medicine it's self is coconut juice, and food coloring.
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