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    The tech industry is a bubble. It's a bunch of people that think alike at one wing and they're usually old stem lords with whatever Jasper has. Ironically, they're late adapters for technology (that they're not selling). The other wing, which is much smaller and much louder, are libertarians and futurist. This wing makes it's money from being loud. Getting everyone to think they have seen the future and putting money on them for having this ability. Because everyone moves towards that industry thinking it's the key to 'future money', there's a big loud portion of it dedicated to making noise and crystal ball reading.

    When they make these calculations, their mild autism causes them to think everyone is like them and everyone is excited by technology that doesn't immediately lead to masturbation and social pea-cocking. this is an industry that is yet to learn that humanity isn't rational, so the estimations people like Yang make about automation are based on the idea that everyone is trying to be as efficient as possible. I'm working, but I'm also on a wutang forum ego-self serving by getting my rocks off about automation like I know anything. I don't give a fuck if you make a fucking laser that allows me to type all of this shit by blinking. I specifically chose to get my rocks off in this way and that's what I want to do. if people thought like stemlords think they think everyone would be wearing a white shirt, living in an efficiency den, and eating their food via pill.

    infact, the tech industry now has a fascination with condensing food into pills and just swallowing because it's more logical than eating in their dumb ass mind. It's a huge thing. thie libertarian wing of the industry, everyone else wants to get a nice juice steak and a cold brew on Wednesdays, served by a lil bitch or two.
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    kindaaa. I don't think cars replaced horses, they replaced feet. Horses were for rich people with a lot of property. Everyone else used their feet or bikes. I think AI will be a bigger part of our lives but we're in a service economy and few of our jobs are tied to actual volume production. Most people in developed economies are paying for a product and a human interaction.

    There are economies that are ahead of us with automation like South Korea, and they have found that automation is adapted when there's a lack of human capital (unemployment is too low). When people are available companies have still opted for a person despite the government incentives them to automate there. They're at (last I checked ) 2.1% unemployment and when it starts to increase, automation adaptation rates start decreasing.

    As far as cars and horses, People still ride horses. There are 2.1 million horse owners (no saying how many each owns) in the country and 7.1 million people are 'involved' in the horse industry. Few things are ever really phased out. They are improved on, or if a new thing comes that does the exact same thing better, then they find another 'role'. There are also underlying factors that cause people to use certain things that we ignore because humans aren't practical. Horse ownership was never about getting around, it was about flexing. It was also a status thing. Even when adopted for war it was the cash money rich niggas using it, it was their way of saying we're cash money rich niggas, and 90% of the horses life was spent off the battlefield being used to flex.

    So if someone starts a business, there's often an element of 'i want to control people' that motivates them. A lot of people mark their success by getting ppl on their pay role. These people 'can' automate, but they don't, and if they do it's a desperate last resort. People can get food from a vending machine but they want to go to a restaurant and have a cute whore treat them like they're worthwhile. This is a more realistic and consistent motivation than 'i want to get my food as efficiently as possible', and 'i want to control a fleet of cute whores' is a more realistic motivation than 'i want people to get food as efficient as possible'.

    If we actually did what technology allows us to do on an efficiency and logical level, we would have phase out a lot of shit a long time ago. Service economies primarily focus resources on helping people cope with the existential depression of their shit life. So if there's a machine that gives you icecream cool, but people are actually paying to see another person, have that fuck nigga give you an icecream cone then lick it while staring at all the other icecream niggas because that's what we do god.
    Well, every piece of technology is for rich people first. Cars absolutely did replace horses and horses were definitely used for travel. People who used horses as transport or for taxis stopped using them quickly after cars became the more practical option. If you needed to travel any further than the next town you weren't going to walk it or bike it unless you had no other option. People who own horses now mainly use them for recreation, not travel.

    And no technology is not capable of automating that many jobs right now. You need a system that basically takes care of itself which is not possible yet. Sure if you want an upmarket experience then going to a nice restaurant is great but most people don't need or want that every day. Fast Food and supermarkets are going to get a lot more automated, and you can get human interaction elsewhere.

    And this is ongoing. Its short sighted to say we haven't done it yet so we'll never do it. There are a ton of jobs that have been automated, its just that luckily there were other industries that sprang up at the same time. Theres probably a limit to how long that cycle can continue before everything is performed better by an AI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSA View Post
    The tech industry is a bubble. It's a bunch of people that think alike at one wing and they're usually old stem lords with whatever Jasper has. Ironically, they're late adapters for technology (that they're not selling). The other wing, which is much smaller and much louder, are libertarians and futurist. This wing makes it's money from being loud. Getting everyone to think they have seen the future and putting money on them for having this ability. Because everyone moves towards that industry thinking it's the key to 'future money', there's a big loud portion of it dedicated to making noise and crystal ball reading.

    When they make these calculations, their mild autism causes them to think everyone is like them and everyone is excited by technology that doesn't immediately lead to masturbation and social pea-cocking. this is an industry that is yet to learn that humanity isn't rational, so the estimations people like Yang make about automation are based on the idea that everyone is trying to be as efficient as possible. I'm working, but I'm also on a wutang forum ego-self serving by getting my rocks off about automation like I know anything. I don't give a fuck if you make a fucking laser that allows me to type all of this shit by blinking. I specifically chose to get my rocks off in this way and that's what I want to do. if people thought like stemlords think they think everyone would be wearing a white shirt, living in an efficiency den, and eating their food via pill.

    infact, the tech industry now has a fascination with condensing food into pills and just swallowing because it's more logical than eating in their dumb ass mind. It's a huge thing. thie libertarian wing of the industry, everyone else wants to get a nice juice steak and a cold brew on Wednesdays, served by a lil bitch or two.
    There's definitely a bunch of people making money off talking shit on the subject and making wild predictions.

    I think the key is to just look at the trajectory of the human race historically. We're not going to stand still, thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaDynasty View Post
    Well, every piece of technology is for rich people first. Cars absolutely did replace horses and horses were definitely used for travel. People who used horses as transport or for taxis stopped using them quickly after cars became the more practical option. If you needed to travel any further than the next town you weren't going to walk it or bike it unless you had no other option. People who own horses now mainly use them for recreation, not travel.

    And no technology is not capable of automating that many jobs right now. You need a system that basically takes care of itself which is not possible yet. Sure if you want an upmarket experience then going to a nice restaurant is great but most people don't need or want that every day. Fast Food and supermarkets are going to get a lot more automated, and you can get human interaction elsewhere.

    And this is ongoing. Its short sighted to say we haven't done it yet so we'll never do it. There are a ton of jobs that have been automated, its just that luckily there were other industries that sprang up at the same time. Theres probably a limit to how long that cycle can continue before everything is performed better by an AI.

    I think there's a misconception that companies create jobs. In reality markets create jobs. If the market wants more of X you find more people to deliver X. If the market wants less, you downsize. You can, as a business person, hire people without the market demanding they be there. That being said, most jobs in a developed economy are tied to a human interaction. It's the market coming to you to to say 'i want this to feel X way and believe you can help me get there', then you doing whatever you do to make them feel that way. There has been a decrease in human interaction that correlates with an increase in success for businesses that emphasize on human interaction. The explosion of cafes is directly linked with the growth of social media because people want to go somewhere with a human presence.

    Imagine going 12 days only interacting with social media and various automated service programs and robots. lol you'll off yourself or flock to whichever places are still holding out. People can drink beer in their house (and do) but they also go to bars and drink the same thing for more money because there's human presence there.

    japan was under the impression that human interactions were important but now they're all killing themselves because they were being dumb. I'm sure there was a time that vending machines were new and someone was saying 'in the future everyone will get their food from a vending machine', and only Japanese ppl took the asshole seriously. That's how I feel about all these 'AUTOMATION IS COMING' people.

    Weren't out toasters and combs supposed to have Wifi by now according to tech douches in 2014 (internet of things)? They just make noise to promote themselves, which is literally Yangs strategy. 'Vote for me because I see the future and there's doom', 'invest in my Uber for sperm banks before it makes a dime of profit because in the future everyone will be nutting into an app'.
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    The real issue with 'jobs' is the fact that capitalism isn't tied to making people's lives better. Or any given country/city/state etc. The relationship between employment and capitalism brought us to this point, but capitalism is about moving as much capital into a given direction as possible, and everyone is now realizing that this doesn't always require being useful to society. One of the things pegging up the cuckary that allowed us to let companies dictate our entire government and lives was the idea that they serve a social good by 'creating jobs'. Now they're firmly aware that they don't have to do shit for anyone and they'll be better off.

    Recently Disney/Nike has found out that pissing off white men is the best way to get a blockbuster because they'll go bat shit online, start insulting non-white men, then the non-white men will respond to them (triple the press) and make it a duty to prove them wrong. Designer brands have learned that the best way to get more press is pissing off black people because they'll yammer on about whatever you did, and it spreads their name and new products. None of this requires hiring more marketing talent. Companies have learned that instead of making 200 shoes, they can make 10 and sell each one for the price of 200, then use people's insecurities as marketing. Apple has realized that it doesn't need improve, just keep selling the same phone with new gimmicks. How many new employees does it take to do that fuck shit? All of the other rich people are just opting into hedge funds instead of 'creating products and services'.

    At this point they're just taking your money and not doing the thing Nicky Douche type boomers thought they existed to do (create jobs).
    Then the 4d capitalism is making sure nobody does anything that will change the deck.

    no new inventions that would disrupt anything and blockbuster you out
    no new companies that will fuck up your market share
    no new hires or positions tied to anything important.

    A lot of companies are just keeping employees for tax write offs and municipal favors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSA View Post
    When they make these calculations, their mild autism causes them to think everyone is like them and everyone is excited by technology that doesn't immediately lead to masturbation and social pea-cocking.
    Yea the industry should totally switch it's focus to making all emerging tech catered towards the masses of retards who can't control their baseline animalistic urges.
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    Darryl you’re the initially quiet guy at parties who people urge to “open up”, then when you do, they immediately wish you would stop talking.

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    Tech industry needs to go back to being boring, uncool, and under the radar. Hollywood and the press did a good deal of damage attempting to glamorize & oversaturate it with people who realistically should be selling state farm insurance or working as realtors. A barrage of useless people that struggle like boomers with the basics like doing a fresh operating install or doing a hard factory reset of their smart phone. I recently saw a job ad written by some chic project manager that did nothing to describe their existing projects but a pitch about "If you want to work in a inclusive environment of people who share their "nextdoor neighbor app" stories and shenanigans" and weekly happy hours blah blah
    It's menacing lol.
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    I think the 'tech is cool' wave is dying out since it's becoming clear that it's just vulvas making gimmick apps they know aren't profitable, and old men selling excel with a different UI for $200,000. The in-house gimmicks are so fucking god damn annoying. The place I worked when I was new in Houston used to have '24/7 buffet', which just ended up being disgusting and stupid because you're smelling garlic in a confined space for 8 hours all to pitch excel with a blue UI to ignorant ass lawyers. I get clients (well 'prospects') that literally can't describe their product but will tell you all of the bells and whistles that come with their cumpany and the 'fortune 500' companies that use their gimmick
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    ^ last I checked this post came before mine. Matrix glitch confirmed.

    TSA could have a great wrestling career against The new improved Dusty Rhodes or selling State Farm Insurance instead of pretending he understands how baremetal, assembly code, and memory registers produce glowing dicks and vaginas on a retina screen made by Koreans, empowered by hard times blues Americans.

    Just get yourself a google analytics and GTM certification and stop with the weird rants. I mean we "get it". Elon Incel Musk is trying to be the next Andrew Carnegie (it's so cringey) and it rubs you the wrong way because he was "WAS" a media darling until he subliminally called out the jews like a Jay-z diss.
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    where is that recent jay track that got the juice all hot and bothered? that shit was hilarious. "ommmg he can't saaaaay that" "it's like annothha hallll offf $cost!!!"
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    Yes he’s been milking the same rants for 5 years now.

    Time to accept your fate as a bank teller dude

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    You make less than a teller,
    Unless you get paid in bitcoin like Robby earlier this year when he was, again, learning big boy finance from reddit
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    Bitcoin still pays out better than your local casino. Much better odds, and high energy. Although it's probably better to save your money for when the boomers die off. They hold the majority of the housing and will be selling their estates for pennies on the dollar during their final weeks in a nursing home getting abused by charlesjones bed pan cleaners.
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    Weren't you 'buying silver' too?

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